New bidding system: "M-Tribe system"

[cf_John0]

Under the guide of methodology:

 

M-Tribe Bidding System

with limited art-open,reasonable response & rebidding,and usual conventions

 

1d:12~16,natural;4/+

1h/s/:10~16,natural;Majors' rule of 19,54/+

1nt:weak,13~15,bal;w/o 5M

♣♣♣♣

2c:21+,strong w/t 6+ suit;or

12~16;5c+/4Major 2 suiter;

F1 w/t 2D weak response

♦♦♦♦

2d/h/s:6/+ one suiter;or

2-suiter 5-5+equiv w/t major suit;

under 11hcps

NF w/t pass response

♥♥♥♥

2nt:both minor 5-5 suiters under 11hcps; or

bal 21~22 ;

F1 w/t 3c ask

♠♠♠♠

1c:other hands,12hcp+;

12~16,prepare not weak 1nt;

12~16,natural;club 5+,only one suiter

17~20,bal;

17~20,un-bal;

23/+,bal;

F1 w/t 1D weak response

♣♣♣♣

3x:usual,7/+

NF w/t 3nt/4c asking

♦♦♦♦

4c:minor preempts

4d/h:Texas preempts

4s:bizarre minors hands asking Keycards

4nt:bizarre majors hands asking Keycards

Edited July 21, 2008 by cf_John0

[glen]

How is 16 balanced handled?

 

Is 2NT-3♣ a non-forcing ask?

[Rossoneri]

Don't like the way the system handles balanced hands. Range seems too wide for comfort.

[DrTodd13]

What would your argument be that this is better than other systems out there? Seems precision-ish except putting 2♣ hands back in 1♣ and taking the really strong hands and putting them back in 2♣. There is something to be said for consistency and until I hear your reasoning it is hard to understand why some things are in 1♣ and others in 2♣ or 2N. There's enough room after 1♣ to sort out all the strong hands be they balanced or unbalanced.

[civill]

I think that the M-Tribe system is not only easier to learn ,but also easier to deepen than the most seen others,

just like a tribe with its mystery and simplicity,and

just like the bridge game ,and the bridge players ;

Edited July 22, 2008 by civill

[Rossoneri]

I think that the M-Tribe system is not only easier to learn ,but also easier to deepen than the most seen others,

just like a tribe with its mystery and simplicity,and

just like the bridge game ,and the bridge players ;

Mystery? Easier to deepen? Care to elaborate?

[Apollo81]

The worst things about this system, in order, are:

 

1. The 2♣ opening is forcing, and describes a set of hands where responder will commonly want to play in 2♣.

 

2. The 1♣ opening can be a single suited club 12-16 or any 17-20. This means that an unbalanced 17-20 with primary clubs and another suit will be virtually impossible to show.

 

3. The forcing 2NT opener will be a disaster pretty much whenever opener has a strong 2NT and the field is passing a strong 2NT.

[cf_John0]

The worst things about this system, in order, are:

 

1. The 2♣ opening is forcing, and describes a set of hands where responder will commonly want to play in 2♣.

 

2. The 1♣ opening can be a single suited club 12-16 or any 17-20.  This means that an unbalanced 17-20 with primary clubs and another suit will be virtually impossible to show.

 

3. The forcing 2NT opener will be a disaster pretty much whenever opener has a strong 2NT and the field is passing a strong 2NT.

1,The similar 2C opening also can be seen in Precision system or Polish WJ system ;

 

2,"an unbalanced 17-20 with primary clubs and another suit " is impossible directly show,but is simply to show indirectly;

 

3,something contradicted itself?

Edited July 23, 2008 by cf_John0

[Rossoneri]

1. WJ/Precision 2C doesn't have the set of strong hands, therefore responder can safely pass.

 

2. So now after your club rebid what does responder know, you are 12-20 with clubs? Try showing 17-20 with clubs after a jump overcall by one of the opponents.

 

3. The forcing 2NT opener will be a disaster pretty much whenever opener has a strong 2NT and the field is passing a strong 2NT.