Echognome Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 [hv=d=w&v=e&s=sqt8754hakt72d8c9]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♠) - 2NT - (Pass/Dbl) - ?[/hv] Partner bids an unusual 2NT over West's 1♠ opening. Crikey! At some tables East passed. What is your call over 2NT with a passing East? At our table, East doubles. What is your gameplan now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 If RHO doubles I pass. Let pard select the better trump suit. And he gets to play it too. :P If RHO passes, I estimate 2NT will be down around 4 tricks, undoubled.In a suit contract, maybe down 2 doubled? I pass. If they X then pard can select the better minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Just this week I had this shape hit dummy (except long in both minors) after I had overcalled 4♠ with 7411 shape (both majors). The opponents make nothing. We went -200 NV, for a top. Not doubled. Moral? Game plan is to bid 3♣ confidently. I can hope for no double, and I want them to have space (leave them a cue of 3♦ in case they want it). Plus, 5-6 is more likely than 6-5, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Pass after RHO's double, obviously. If RHO passes, I bid 3♣, because it's my better suit. How come so many of your problems seem to hint at breaching partnership discipline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDluxe Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Add me to the pass/pass-ers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 After a pass - 3CAfter the X, xx showing no preference for either minor. Pass would be to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 3♣/pass, seems obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 After a double i XX to suggest H lenght. Parter can be 02(65) or 1255 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Pass after RHO's double, obviously. If RHO passes, I bid 3♣, because it's my better suit. How come so many of your problems seem to hint at breaching partnership discipline? Why is a pass breaching partnership discipline? You just make the bid that maximizes your expected score opposite partner's range of hands, and especially at MPs (where we don't have to worry about the missed games so much) I think this is a pass here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Why is a pass breaching partnership discipline? You just make the bid that maximizes your expected score opposite partner's range of hands, and especially at MPs (where we don't have to worry about the missed games so much) I think this is a pass here. "Breach partnership dispiline" isn't synonymous with "make the wrong bid". Pass is a breach of discipline in that it's not doing what partner asked you to. This problem did appear at the same time as the one where we were asked whether we'd show a four-card major in response to Stayman. Occasionally doing something non-systemic might be OK, but it's unwise to do it often, because the experience may cloud partner's judgement in the future when he has, for example, a game-going minor two-suiter over an opposing opening, or a 4144 which isn't quite strong enough to show its shape facing a 1NT opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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