your preempt style?

[jillybean]

Dealer: East Vul: EW Scoring: IMP ♠ KT9843 ♥ KQ8 ♦ 84 ♣ Q8

 

West North East South

 

 -     -     Pass  ?  

 

What is your preempt style and do you open 2♠ in 2nd position NV vs. V here?

[655321]

1♠

[rogerclee]

I would open 2♠, but my preferred style is to preempt very soundly in second seat at any colors (though this suit is pretty awful, the hand is ok). In a normal preempting style, I would consider this hand to be too strong for these colors.

[mike777]

second seat...

 

 

2s even at fav vul....

[ochinko]

2♠

 

KQ10xxx-KQx-xx-xx would be 1♠.

[dbsboy]

2♠, at any vul

 

I play very very wide-ranged preempts.

 

since this does not qualify for a 1S opening, so 2S it is

[kenrexford]

1♠

Almost. Maybe 1st seat. Definitely if the Queens were both internal. Not quite enough for me, though. Pass. The 1098 internal is VERY tempting, though. I would probably open this sometimes, in practice, even second seat.

[NickRW]

Well, I learnt the rule of 2/3/4 a long time ago. I can get quite frivolous about it in 3rd seat and will usually be tempted with a borderline hand in 1st. But I don't mess with 2nd seat and this isn't the six playing tricks required (for a multi 2♦ as I play it). Nor do I think this aceless hand is worth a 1 opener either. So pass for me.

[pclayton]

2♠. Not a one bid for me with a 6322.

[kgr]

I would open 2♠, but my preferred style is to preempt very soundly in second seat at any colors (though this suit is pretty awful, the hand is ok).

agree

 

In a normal preempting style, I would consider this hand to be too strong for these colors.

I thought 2nd seat it was normal to preempt sound. (..maybe not as sound as this hand)

[jdonn]

PASS!!! wow answers are amazing to me...

[neilkaz]

Lousy suit...decent defence outside... 2nd seat so I prefer to pass.

 

I don't hate 2♠ but am passing and don't consider this aceless hand good enough for 1♠ playing 2/1 or sayc

[skjaeran]

Fits nicely into my weak twos; 8-11 hcp and 6-card suit.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

having agreed to open fairly sound and also to play

fairly disciplined preempts, I pass.

 

If I have to open, 2S it is.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Mbodell]

Playing limited openers I open 1♠. Playing standard it depends as this is right on the border of my strongest (hand strength) of 2♠ or my weakest of 1♠. I probably open 2♠ if I'm playing Ogust, but I'm not thrilled by it as I like to have 8 LTC hands, not 7 LTC hands, for a weak 2.

[Gerben42]

I certainly do not open 1♠, that's for sure. But partner won't expect this much for 2♠ either. Suit: Bad. Shape: Bad. Side values: Too many.

 

I guess I pass.

[jtfanclub]

I would open 2♠. Change the spots, I may change my mind.

[Quantumcat]

My p and I have the agreement that not opening a pre-empt means you haven't got one. We also don't open 10 counts @ 1 level unless easy to rebid: 2 good suits or an excellent 6 card one.

 

Therefore not good enough for 1 level, and have to pre-empt (since we have one).

[CSGibson]

2 spades unless not playing Ogust responses. Partner knows I bid on any excuse.

[fromageGB]

2♦ (multi) all the time.

 

I don't class the call as a preempt, but as a descriptor of the hand. It is defined for us as 6 card 6-10 points, and while "points" may be varied in the light of shape and other values, this hand clearly fits the bill.

 

One of a major we keep up to strength, defined as 5+ cards rule of 17 (points plus spade length) - add another spade and I would open 1♠ - so less than this with 6 cards is a multi.  Less than this with a 5 card suit we open 2♠, so that is defined as 8-11.  The tight definitions work well.

[Codo]

1 Spade. At this fav. my preempts can be very weak, so I need to lower the range of my 1 in a suit openings too. The alternative - to pass these hands and bid later to show a weak two that was unsuitable for opening- did not work well for me.

[Quantumcat]

My p has taught me to play Brad 2's, and I wonder if anyone else plays them?

 

A 2-bid shows that and spades, at least 4-4 and 2-10pts or so (max if 4/4)

 

Any response except 2NT is non-forcing, 2NT is enquiry. Pre-emptor bids his 5-card suit if minimum, and bids 3C if maximum (whether or not he has a 5 card suit) then the auction is forcing at least to game so can be taken slowly.

 

This is only in 1/2 seat, in 3rd you know P has no spades so 2D shows D/H and 2H shows H/C.

 

I have been dying to have an agreement where you bid 1S in 3rd seat and no-one opening, having 1 or 2 spades, (since p has no spades unless he has S/C and spades not good enough for 2S, so the opps are almost guaranteed a spade fit), p bids 2C with a raise and clubs, 2D/H with a 5cd suit or a bad 6cd that wasn't enough for 3D/H, and 1NT with none of the above (3 spades but only 4 [bad] clubs included) Any further bid by you shows a real hand. My p says this will be illegal everywhere except in the top quarter of the field in national events. So sad. I thought it would be heaps of fun to play though.