Impossible Auction?

[Hanoi5]

I think you're nuts.

[kenrexford]

.... certain .... rational ... impossible .... wildly interesting ...... extremely, almost absurdly ....

At secondary school, in foreign language classes, we sometimes had those "add some more adjectives to this text to make it more colorful" exercises. Did you have those as well ?

Those adjectives, taken out of context, seem like good adjectives to describe me as a person. LOL Although, some may object to "wildly interesting." :blink:

[lexlogan]

Guess it was impossible to work out.  I thought it might be possible to deduce what I held, based on the fact that it's easy for me to describe almost any other hand type with at least 3 Spades.  Actual hand below.  How would you have bid it?  (And I hate people who bid like this too.  This time that people was me, though.)

 

 

♠K8642 ♥A3 ♦ - ♣KT9763

  I thought a direct 4 Spades over the double would get us too high too often.  Am I nuts?

 

2/1 GF with support doubles, niether vulnerable,

Auction: (P)-1♣-(P)-1♠

(X)-?

 

4S seems straightforward. I don't think you can deny support for partner, then show support later, and expect him to work it out -- and why give the opps room to describe their hands?

 

Systemically, 4C might show a big balanced raise while 4S shows this sort of distributional raise.

[benlessard]

1- Partner cannot have 3S because he would have XX.

2- partner got 4S and distribution but not extreme. Otherwise he would raise before the opponent compete. Opps are white its not the time to lets them find a 19 card double fit.

3- 4S has to show that slam was a possibility at one point. With no slam interest he wouldnt mess around the bushes and just bid 2Nt,3S or 4S rightaway.

4- he probably has a stiff or a void but didnt want to make a splinter because hes got a stiff honnor or a void and didnt want to tell the opps what to lead.

5- partner want maximum information probably because hes got a red holding like Kx or Qxx in a red suit.

6- After 3nt he signoffed because hes got a D honnor that doesnt fit with partner H honnor.

 

KQxx

A

KQx

KJTxx

 

or

 

KQxx

--

KQx

KJxxxx

There is at least 50% speculation in what ive just said ;)

[Double !]

I have not looked at the actual hand yet. I voted "not possible" but am reconsidering.

 

Is it possible that opener is 5-6 in the black suits with holes in clubs and is hoping to hear if responder also has something in clubs instead of jamming the auction by bidding 4S to start with? (lol: reminds me of years ago when I held 5116, opened a club, partner responded a spade, and I couldn't decide which red suit to splinter in.)

Anyway, this is the only type of hand I can think of. If opener is always opening 5-6 black suited hands with 1S, then please forget the above.

 

DHL

[RichMor]

lexlogan wrote

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Systemically, 4C might show a big balanced raise while 4S shows this sort of distributional raise.

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That's a good general idea.

 

Maybe it could be reversed so 4♣ shows a raise based on long Clubs plus Spade support and a direct 4♠ is the balanced max.

 

This would leave room for responder cue bid a red suit at the 4 level when appropriate.