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Easy one to figure out in your head.

 

Line 1: Cash AKQ

Line 2: Double finesse

 

Line 1 gains against J10x and J10 with LHO.

Line 2 gains against J10xx and J10xxx (and J10longer but it doesn't matter) with RHO

 

J10xx is more likely than J10x (if the suit is 4-3 the J10 are more likely to be with the 4 than with the 3)

 

J10xxx is more likely than J10 (if the suit is 5-2 the J10 are more likely to be with the 5 than with the 2)

 

So line 2 is clearly best. Note that you can figure this out with any % symbols.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

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By the way, note that fred carefully didn't mention picking up a singleton honour (J or 10) by cashing the ace first. It looks like that improves the chance of playing them from the top, but it doesn't becuase West will always play an honour from J10x
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Easy one to figure out in your head.

 

Line 1: Cash AKQ

Line 2: Double finesse

 

Line 1 gains against J10x and J10 with LHO.

Line 2 gains against J10xx and J10xxx (and J10longer but it doesn't matter) with RHO

 

J10xx is more likely than J10x (if the suit is 4-3 the J10 are more likely to be with the 4 than with the 3)

 

J10xxx is more likely than J10 (if the suit is 5-2 the J10 are more likely to be with the 5 than with the 2)

 

So line 2 is clearly best. Note that you can figure this out with any % symbols.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

This analysis, although dead right, nonetheless brings up an important caveat, IMO. When the comparion holding vary distributionally in this manner (2.5 length versus 4.5 length), a little bit of discovery outside of this suit, or inference, or restricted choice leads, etc., might in real life tilt the balanced somewhat.

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Easy one to figure out in your head.

 

Line 1: Cash AKQ

Line 2: Double finesse

 

Line 1 gains against J10x and J10 with LHO.

Line 2 gains against J10xx and J10xxx (and J10longer but it doesn't matter) with RHO

 

J10xx is more likely than J10x (if the suit is 4-3 the J10 are more likely to be with the 4 than with the 3)

 

J10xxx is more likely than J10 (if the suit is 5-2 the J10 are more likely to be with the 5 than with the 2)

 

So line 2 is clearly best. Note that you can figure this out with any % symbols.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

This analysis, although dead right, nonetheless brings up an important caveat, IMO. When the comparion holding vary distributionally in this manner (2.5 length versus 4.5 length), a little bit of discovery outside of this suit, or inference, or restricted choice leads, etc., might in real life tilt the balanced somewhat.

Either you are wrong, or I misunderstand. Note that Fred was only comparing holding with the same lengths of East and West, so knowing the exact count doesn't matter at all. The odds are also quite strongly in favor of the percentage play - e.g. if the suit is 3=4 it is 2:1 in favor.

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Yeah, I got a little confused there. What I was originally thinking is that holdings like J10xxx and J10xx, J10, and J10x, and the companion xx, xxx, xxxx, and xxxxx, seem to have inferences arise.
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Easy one to figure out in your head.

Yes I think Han posted this one in the beginner/intermediate forum because experts would find it easy :)

 

Standard protocol on this forum is for experts to use hidden text (like helene_t).

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Easy one to figure out in your head.

Yes I think Han posted this one in the beginner/intermediate forum because experts would find it easy :)

 

Standard protocol on this forum is for experts to use hidden text (like helene_t).

Sorry to the B/Is out there. Hope I didn't ruin the problem for too many of you.

 

Actually I rarely notice which Forum a given post appears in. I will try to pay more attention to this.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

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Actually, whatever the forum and whatever your level, it is probably best to read the opening post and see what you can make of it. Having either solved it or taken it as far as you can, then read on. So, I am not sure this hidden text thing does much good - if you're of a mind not to solve it you'll just highlight the text anyway.

 

Nick

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Actually, whatever the forum and whatever your level, it is probably best to read the opening post and see what you can make of it. Having either solved it or taken it as far as you can, then read on. So, I am not sure this hidden text thing does much good - if you're of a mind not to solve it you'll just highlight the text anyway.

 

Nick

Sometimes corrections to the problem etc are discussed, we cannot have spoilers etc revealed/sandwiched between those posts.

 

Also the answer being hidden might dissuade some people from giving up too easily or accidently viewing them.

 

It might not be doing any good, but IMO it is not doing any harm either (except for the minor inconveniece to read/write such posts).

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