Bidding problem

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You as south holds

Q76

10763

AKQJ9

K

 

Norse open the bidding with 1♠ (oponents pass all the way)

You bid 2♦ and norse rebid 2♥

What do you bid now and why ?

I'll show norse's hand and the actual bidding at the 2 tables later.

[inquiry]

We need a little more information about what system you are playing. Are you playing 2/1 GF? If not, do you use 4th suit forcing? Is you partner likely to rebid 2♥ on three card suits when holdng a hand without six ♠ and without extra values for 2NT? Would 2NT have shown extra values by partner?

 

Ok, let's assume you are playing 2/1 GF system, so that anything you bid here is forcing. You could rebid 2♠ despite your four card ♥ support, or you could safely raise to 3♥. An obvious thought here would be a "descriptive" jump to 4♥ based upon the principle of fast arrival (as long as i am certain my partner has four or more of them). The truth is, however, there is a chance you may play in 4♥ if you bid this way with 7♠ cold and 6♥ has no play. Give partner some nice but unremarkable hand like....

♠AKJxx ♥Axxx ♦x ♣Axx

You have 5♠+4♦+1♥+2♣+1♣ruff. Change the ♥A to ♥K and 6♠ is likely make (if no ♥ ruff).

 

Since your hand contains a source of a lot of tricks for either major suit contract, I would not leap to game. So after 2/1 GF, I would bid a tame 2♠ first. This is a good hand so let's see how partner continues. It will be difficult to get back into ♥ later, but of course, if you bid ♥ here instead, it will be impossible to get back into ♠'s. Now if partner has the hand shown above, he will cue-bid 3♣, I cue-bid 3♦, he cue-bid 3♥, and now roman keycard blackwood leads to the cold grand slam.

 

If you are playing SAYC, you can't afford to rebid 2♠. So here I think I would use fourth suit forcing 3♣. I will use partner's rebid to guide me towards the appropriate major. For instance, if he rebid 3♥, I will be raising ♥. If he rebids 3♠, we will play in ♠. If he rebids 3NT, I will raise ♠ as well.

 

Ben

[Trpltrbl]

Totaly depends on system you play, in 2/1 I would bid 3♥, to support ♠ later. 4-4 fits play better.

In SAYC or other natural systems I will 3♠ if that is forcing, or 3 ♦ which is forcing for sure.

 

Mike :D

[luis]

2s or 3s depending on the system. If playing 2/1 2s is enough if not then 3s.

I think that supporting hearts is a big mistake. Somebody said "4-4 fits play better" this is an incomplete statement, the full sentence should be "when you have a 5-3 fit and a 4-4 fit the 4-4 fit plays better if you can use the 5-3 fit for discards"

In this particular hand we have absolutely nothing to discard from our hands. We can have a grand slam in spades with AK of spades and the hA and clubAce while for a grand slam in hearts you will need AKQ in hearts and the club ace and the spade ace and probably the sK as well. So it's clear that the spade fit is superior and the heart fit is just an illusion.

Seems to be an easy hand.

 

Luis

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Very well guys, i'm impressed.

true its eaiser here then at the table but still.

north's hand was :

AK1042

AK84

4

Q85

 

south again :

Q76

10763

AKQJ9

K

 

both 6nt and 6sp are making, but 6h is down 1.

at one table the south supported heart and at the other spades, which led to 6h down 1 and 6sp made.

this is not an easy hand since like the guy (forgot the name) here said, they teach us that 4-4 is better, and forget to explain what luis did. the pair in 6h is known to be the best israely pair for many years and still (i guess not with much thinking) he supported hearts.