matmat Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 You're defending a doubled trump contract. you hold KQJx of trump. on your opening lead you tapped declarer, who you anticipate has at most 5 trump and at the same time established the suit led, AND kept an entry to p's hand. declarer errs slightly by putting down the ace of trump and another . you know you can now pull ALL outstanding trump and let p run his winners. what order do you play your trump honors to tell partner that they should keep their winners and don't need to hold their minor honor guard in another side suit? (partner followed in trump on the first trump trick, but you anticipate will have a discard on the second). (for completeness, you are South, declarer is East). also, another edit -- you know trump lie like this around the table: [hv=n=sx&w=sxxx&e=sat9xx&s=skqjx]399|300|[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 K(JQ). When I play the K, partner will know I have solid trumps, because I didn't double on Kx (depending on context, I guess). I think the second two cards should be suit preference though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchiu Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Both Gnome and I think the normal order is J-K-Q. While there is no certain way to convey this message, it makes it much less likely partner will make a fatal first discard. Partner may be able to infer that you're drawing trumps from the double anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 king-jack-queen. When partner sees you have the jack he will know you have the queen. Jack-queen-king can also work when it is clear that declarer does not have the king. jack-king-queen feels natural but seems really bad as you would play them in this order with KJx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambolino Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 agree with jchiu. especially if YOU doubled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 king-jack-queen. When partner sees you have the jack he will know you have the queen. Jack-queen-king can also work when it is clear that declarer does not have the king. jack-king-queen feels natural but seems really bad as you would play them in this order with KJx.precisely my thinking: JK is the WORST possible sequence because it is the only way you can play KJx if drawing trump. JQ should not mislead partner, since you probably wouldn't be defending a doubled contract with QJx and would have won the 10 with QJ10x, but why make partner think any harder than necessary? After all, he only has so many good thoughts available, and he may need them more the next hand. K then J is the clearest message: either you hold the Q, or you are utterly insane, in which case nothing matters :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambolino Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 noooo... JQK i thought, misread jchiu's seq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 K-J-Q seems like it gets the message across to partner giving him the less headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 King jack queen is clearly best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossoneri Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 I would think KJQ in that order as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted July 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 at the table I played JKQ. It dawned on me right after that this was the wrong order. Another question i have on this is, does it matter whether it is the first or second discard that is critical for p? obviously, if you can afford one bad discard, KJQ is unambiguous... but what if it is the first one that is the difference between setting and making? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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