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uhh, "support" double?


your call please  

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  1. 1. your call please

    • pass
      37
    • penaltyish double
      1
    • 3s
      2
    • 4c
      1
    • obviously penaltyish is a stupid meaning for double, and that is the right call on this hand
      3


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Pass seems obvious. You have a minimum opener with one extra club and marginal support for partner's suit. Hardly enough to take any forward going action.

 

I cannot imagine that a double here would be a support double.

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I have a minimum opener with an extra club but the dreaded 7222, so I pass. By the way, does support double apply this high? Not for me. It doesn't matters much anyway since I am not going to double - whatever that means.

 

Roland

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Pass seems clear. Whatever you decide, double would not be penalty.

 

According to Arend, I'm the only person in the world that would play it as co-operative, so apparently the avant-garde play it as takeout.

 

I think playing a double here as exactly 2 pieces is rather restrictive. Why assign a specific meaning, when we can assign something amorphous, and is a lock to win the post-mortem?

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  • 2 weeks later...
I'm a passer, and don't think it's close; minimum, no shortness, so-so support.

 

I'm rebidding 3 over a balancing double by partner.

We agree completely...lets see if PD can balance.

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Does partner have a negative X available instead of bidding 2S ? If partner had 5 lousy spades would he bid 2S or made a neg X. I like to play that X followed by 3S show 5 lousy spades and a good hand (forcing). With a lousy hand and lousy 5 spades i would just make a neg x anyway. So for me 2S show good spades more often 6 then 5 so i can raise to 3S.

 

If 2S = any 5 spades is possible then i pass.

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I would Pass; flat pattern + minimum + poor Spade support.

 

I don't think Double should be penalty but should be a 'support' double. A support double should show good 2-card support, with good 3-card support just raise.

 

Agree with gerben:

I would Dbl with 2137 and the same honor structure.

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What is the difference between passing now and then bidding 3S when partner re-opens, and making a support X now, assuming that that is what a double would mean? (It's not clear that it should be a support dbl. It could be a hand that wants to play in 3NT if P has a heart stopper.) What the difference between partner bidding 2S immediately as opposed to making a neg X/ 2H and then bidding spades. Why do I ask all these questions that interests no one?

 

If it's a support double, I suggest that the second method shows a minimum that wouldn't accept a game try, and that the first sequence shows a hand that would accept some kind of game try. Why reverse the meanings? Because, just because 2S was F-1, that doesn't mean P must have a hand that would necessarily re-open. P might have had a decent 6 card spade suit and little else. If the system doesn't permit 2S/2H competitive with such a hand, then that seems to be a flaw. At least, by differentiating the strength of your hand, partner has some idea whether or not you'd accept a game try.

 

Does this make any sense? I doubt it, but it's just a suggestion and permitted me to (figuratively), open my big mouth and get in trouble as a result.

 

DHL

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