han Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 AKxxxxxAQxJxx Red against white, IMPs. (1H) - p - (4H) - ?? Opponents do not have agreements about this auction, they play a standard system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambolino Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 passss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Classic 4♠ call. You are between a rock and a hard place. If you pass and collect +100 (or, worse, -420) you lose big when you make game. And you know that partner cannot act if you don't act. If you bid, and LHO has a big hand, you go for a number. More and more you find better players treat (1♥) - P - (4♥) as a "transfer" to 4♠ if you have any excuse. You clearly have an excuse on this hand. The only question is - does double make any sense on this hand? Clearly double does make some sense, since you have defense. But it is not likely to lead to a 4♠ contract. There is one more advantage to the 4♠ call. Even when it is wrong (but not very wrong) the opps may not be able to work it out and they may bid one more. Tough problem. I bid 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Against a strong club, where 4♥ can be anything from x xxxxx xx xxxxx to xx Qxx KJxx AQxx, I pass. There's just too much downside to bidding and we have possible book in our own hand. Against a normal 4♥ call, I accept the transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Wow I would never even consider bidding here. Partner didn't bid over 1H and we have decent defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Agree with Justin. There is some concern that we have xx in ♥. Supposing that opponents bidding is based on a 10-card heart fit, that gives partner singleton. Why didn't partner double 1♥? Partner doesn't need more than 10 points or so for a takeout double holding singleton heart. So it seems like partner doesn't have much. I think this would be a much harder problem if we held a singleton heart ourselves (and say one more diamond). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Why didn't partner double 1♥? Partner doesn't need more than 10 points or so for a takeout double holding singleton heart. So it seems like partner doesn't have much. Couldn't partner have a reasonable hand with 3=1=(45) shape? I'd want a really good 5 card suit (to overcall) or more than minimum to double 1♥ with only 3 spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Agree with Justin. There is some concern that we have xx in ♥. Supposing that opponents bidding is based on a 10-card heart fit, that gives partner singleton. Why didn't partner double 1♥? Partner doesn't need more than 10 points or so for a takeout double holding singleton heart. So it seems like partner doesn't have much. I think this would be a much harder problem if we held a singleton heart ourselves (and say one more diamond). What makes you think partner has 10 HCP? Give LHO a normal opening hand of 13 HCP, and give RHO 5 HCP for his preempt. That leaves 8 HCP for partner, and he probably wouldn't double even with perfect 4144 shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 First instinct was to pass with 5332 with some defensive tricks, but reading some posts that suggest 4S might be right.. I'm eager to find out which is best, but I know I'd still be passing at the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Pass for sure. It would be a reach to double but it might work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 WTP pass. If you are thinking about 4S its because you play too much Mp and not enough IMPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 WTP 4♠. If you are thinking about pass its because you play too much IMPs and not enough MP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 With 2♥, I'm also a passer here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted July 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 I doubled and it cost us quite a few IMPs. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 I doubled and it cost us quite a few IMPs. :( I take it that bidding 4♠ was the winning action? After all, a double only costs 5 IMPs (unless they make overtricks, which hardly seems likely). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Red against white, IMPs. ♠ AKxxx ♥ xx ♦ AQx ♣ Jxx(1H) - p - (4H) - ??Opponents do not have agreements about this auction, they play a standard system. IMO _X = 10, _P = 8, 4♠ = 4.Wow! I appear to be the only man in step with Han. I have primary ♠ support and 3.5 honour tricks. What more am I waiting for? OK :) I admit the doubleton ♥ is a drawback :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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