TimG Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 IMPs, white vs white, in 4th seat you hold ♠A6432 ♥3 ♦T92 ♣A985. 1♣-Pass-1♥-1♠3♥-3♠-4♥-PassPass-Pass Agree with the overcall? What do you lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 10 of ♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 I agree with the overcall, although a few years ago I wouldn't have. Any of the four suits could be right (and either ♣A or a low one, so that makes five). I'd lead ♠A. Perhaps forcing dummy is a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Certainly agree with the overcall.For me, ♦T is a no-brainer. I'm not very good at laying down aces on the opening lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Certainly agree with the overcall.For me, ♦T is a no-brainer. I'm not very good at laying down aces on the opening lead.Also agree with the overcall. All my leads are no brainers (Claims my partners), but Ill go with the diamond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 I find in close betwenn ♠A and ♦10, I'd normally go with the normal ♦10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 IMPs, white vs white, in 4th seat you hold ♠A6432 ♥3 ♦T92 ♣A985.(1♣)-Pass-(1♥)-1♠(3♥)-3♠-(4♥)-Pass(Pass)-PassAgree with the overcall? What do you lead?IMOOver 1♥, agree 1♠ = 10, _X = 8, _P = 7. Now, lead ♠A = 10, ♦T = 6, ♣A = 3, ♥3 = 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted June 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Now, lead ♠A = 10, ♦T = 6, ♣A = 3, ♥3 = 2. On this hand, not leading a spade (or cashing ♣A and shifting to a spade) will allow declarer to pitch all the spade losers. It's only the difference between making exactly and making with two overtricks, but that's still 2 IMPs. IMPs that proponents of this overcall will claim are easier to save because of the intervention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 On this hand, not leading a spade (or cashing ♣A and shifting to a spade) will allow declarer to pitch all the spade losers. It's only the difference between making exactly and making with two overtricks, but that's still 2 IMPs. IMPs that proponents of this overcall will claim are easier to save because of the intervention.I admit I am having trouble understanding your point. I would overcall 1♠, and I would lead the ♦10. These two points are not related. I lead the diamond because in my opinion leading from unsupported Aces is a big loser in the long run. I overcall because I have a decent hand with a 5 card spade suit. Perhaps we can buy the contract, perhaps we can prevent the opponents from having a free run to the best contract. I don't overcall to tell myself what to lead. Your (implied) recommendation of passing throughout, then leading your nearest unsupported Ace is, IMO, not winning bridge, regardless of the 2 IMPs you would save on this particular hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted June 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 I don't overcall to tell myself what to lead. Your overcall fetched support from partner.Your (implied) recommendation of passing throughout, then leading your nearest unsupported Ace is, IMO, not winning bridge, regardless of the 2 IMPs you would save on this particular hand.I don't really mean to be especially critical of the overcall or the non Ace lead. I am merely pointing out that nothing was accomplished with the overcall on this hand. A missed opportunity of sorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 I don't overcall to tell myself what to lead. Your overcall fetched support from partner.Your (implied) recommendation of passing throughout, then leading your nearest unsupported Ace is, IMO, not winning bridge, regardless of the 2 IMPs you would save on this particular hand.I don't really mean to be especially critical of the overcall or the non Ace lead. I am merely pointing out that nothing was accomplished with the overcall on this hand. A missed opportunity of sorts.Yeap that's true, nothing was accomplished with the overcall on this lead..or was it? Ok, let's rewind the auction and gather what was our intention of bidding. Well, our plan (for gains) was to get into the auction at a low level with an average hand as it may help with partner's lead or to fight for the partscore or to find a save/give opponents a hard time if partner finds a preempt. Ok, let's play the auction and see how it fared out. The opponents are now playing in 4♥ and it *may* seem we gained nothing. That's ok isn't it? Our hopes (and goals) lost nothing nor gained anything. Good we're neutral. But what if we had passed and let the opponents have a free-run to 4♥? Well, we also gained and lost nothing as both partner and I were silent. Or did we? If we had passed, didn't we just lose the chance of our goals/hopes mentioned as above? I understand you were not criticizing of the overcall and such, but I think I just disagree with that it gained nothing.fwiw, I think I would also lead a diamond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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