rogerclee Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 IMPs, All White, Second Seat ♠void ♥Ax ♦KQJ87x ♣AJ7xx (1♣) - 1♦ - (1♠) - P(2♦) - ? 1♣ includes all 15-19 balanced hands. Your plan, and after LHO bids 4♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 3♣ and then I'm done, I have always played rebidding opener's minor is natural by the overcaller and frankly it seems to come up all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 3♣ and then I'm done, I have always played rebidding opener's minor is natural by the overcaller and frankly it seems to come up all the time. Yes 3♣ shows my values and hand nicely. If I X 4♠ and they make an OT and PD leaves me, it won't suprise me and if I bid 4NT for pick a minor and go for 500+ and 4♠ may be down if declarer missplays or missguesses that won't suprise me. 3♣ and 100% pass after their normalish 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 I know that I would overbid this hand in practice and bid 4♣. I get in trouble for that stuff. Well, at least I feel better about passing if 4♠ come back untouched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 I know that I would overbid this hand in practice and bid 4♣. I get in trouble for that stuff. Well, at least I feel better about passing if 4♠ come back untouched. No, you just always feel better about not agreeing with anyone to post earlier in a thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 3C now, and then pass over 4S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 I know that I would overbid this hand in practice and bid 4♣. I get in trouble for that stuff. Well, at least I feel better about passing if 4♠ come back untouched. No, you just always feel better about not agreeing with anyone to post earlier in a thread. While that may be a bonus sometimes, that's not a particular motivation here. I would not be surprised if 4♣ is not a ridiculous overbid. I was actually impressed with the discipline to bid this thing 3♣. Hence why I noted that 4♣ is an "overbid" and that "I get in trouble" for this stuff. That tends to actually support the two posts in front of me rather than to disagree. I'd venture that this hand is somewhere between a 3♣ and 4♣ call, probably close to 3♣. I'd like 4♣ a lot more if the diamonds wewre KQJ97x and clubs AJ108x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 I know that I would overbid this hand in practice and bid 4♣. I get in trouble for that stuff. Well, at least I feel better about passing if 4♠ come back untouched. No, you just always feel better about not agreeing with anyone to post earlier in a thread. While that may be a bonus sometimes, that's not a particular motivation here. I would not be surprised if 4♣ is not a ridiculous overbid. I was actually impressed with the discipline to bid this thing 3♣. Hence why I noted that 4♣ is an "overbid" and that "I get in trouble" for this stuff. That tends to actually support the two posts in front of me rather than to disagree. I'd venture that this hand is somewhere between a 3♣ and 4♣ call, probably close to 3♣. I'd like 4♣ a lot more if the diamonds wewre KQJ97x and clubs AJ108x. Yeah it's funny I said that in this particular thread when there is really no obvious answer. I don't even think 4♣ is that big of an overbid, my main problem is that it overstates the clubs, so I guess we agree on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Bidding 3♣ over 2♦ seems like enough on this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambolino Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 4c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 I think this hand deserves 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 IMPs, All White, Second Seat ♠void ♥Ax ♦KQJ87x ♣AJ7xx(1♣) - 1♦ - (1♠) - P(2♦) - ?1♣ includes all 15-19 balanced hands.Your plan, and after LHO bids 4♠?IMOOver (2♦), 3♣ = 10, 2♠ = 8, _X = 6, 4♣ = 4.After _P (4♠), _P = 10, _X = 8, 5♣ = 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 3♣. I don't think I'd 4♣ this even with better club intermediates. Give me 5=6 in the minors and then I would bid 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Give me 5=6 in the minors and then I would bid 4♣. Canape? Weird. I mean, sure you might have 5-6, but why? 1♣ was artificial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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