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I haven't posted here before. I have a question on how people handle three-level preempts after they open a Precision 1C. We had a very frustrating hand last night where I opened 1C with a balanced 22 HCP (we play a 2NT opener shows 20-21) and and RHO bid 3D. Partner had 10 HCP and a 5 card club suit, was worried about going past 3NT, and so doubled showing 8+ points but no sensible bid. I had Kx of diamonds and couldn't see what to do other than bid 3NT - we play 4NT there as Blackwood. Partner passed and we missed a very easy slam in clubs or NT.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks very much.

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Hi welcome to the forums. Please stop by the front desk and pick up your (whatever).

 

I think 4N by opener should be quantitative, not blackwood. It should simply be a hand 'too good" for 3N.

 

Depending on what your double shows, surely the 22 count should do something more than 3N even with Kx?

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The concerns about 4NT as Blackwood make sense. But recently I had a huge hand where a spade slam had excellent chances if my partner had an ace. I opened 1C, LHO bid 3H, partnered passed, and I had 4NT no trump available as Blackwood. How about a cue bid as Blackwood and 4NT as quantitative in these situations?
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The concerns about 4NT as Blackwood make sense. But recently I had a huge hand where a spade slam had excellent chances if my partner had an ace. I opened 1C, LHO bid 3H, partnered passed, and I had 4NT no trump available as Blackwood. How about a cue bid as Blackwood and 4NT as quantitative in these situations?

Be very careful, or you might suggest Gerber shirtly. LOL

 

Just give up on asking for Aces.

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The concerns about 4NT as Blackwood make sense.  But recently I had a huge hand where a spade slam had excellent chances if my partner had an ace.  I opened 1C, LHO bid 3H, partnered passed, and I had 4NT no trump available as Blackwood.  How about a cue bid as Blackwood and 4NT as quantitative in these situations?

Again, I don't know your agreements, but doesn't

 

(1) - 3 - (double)

 

create a GF? This is how it was when I played it. I've never seen the need to double with a 5 count here.

 

In the actual auction I guess if you just want 'aces' you can open 4N or cue 4 and then bid 4N.

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