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holding as dealer: 3=3=3=4 (4 card Clubs) and 11HCP at MP's (don't know vuln).

bidding goes:

P-(P)-P-1

??

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My partner DBL'ed with the hand described above. I really didn't like this.

Questions:

- Would you want to have a bid that shows this hand.

- Suppose that you were allowed to tell everybody at the table that you have this hand. Would you want to do that?

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First of all, it would be nice to see the actual hand.

 

Having said that, it is hard to imagine why one would want to take a call on a 3334 11 count.

 

As for your last question, if I had a way to announce that I had almost the definition of an unremarkable average hand, I don't believe that I would do so.

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If the hand is one that merits considering a double with 4333 shape, a 1 opening comes to mind. If you don't like that style, doubling often may be a bad substitute. But, it depends on the hand, I suppose.
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At white MP and 5th seat, if my 11count looks nice outside of hearts, I would X. I'm not sure if I understand the question about having an exact bid showing this exact hand or if I want to tell everybody my exact hand..
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I'm confused.

 

AQx

xxx

KTx

QT9x

 

People open with this hand?

 

People pass with this hand after P-P-P-1 white in MPs?

 

You's gonna get your clock cleaned passing the second time with this, in MPs. They'll end up in 1NT or some stupid 2 level contract which makes. Yeah, OK, one time in a trillion you'll end up doubled in a two level contract down 2. I'll take my chances.

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People pass with this hand after P-P-P-1 white in MPs?

Yes.

 

And I am still living. My clock may be clean, but my matchpoint scores have not suffered.

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jt what hand would you put your partner with that this auction is possible and partner won't reopen. The only hands I can think of when he has openish and trumps in which case defense seems just as likely to profit as getting into a misfit our way.

3 passes, then

 

1 P 2

 

vs. 3 passes then

1 X 2

 

If I double, partner knows he can safely pre-balance. If partner doesn't pre-balance, I can leave it alone. If I pass with 0-11, then either partner ends up pre-balancing when I don't have the hand to help, or I end up balancing (if this gets passed around) when I shouldn't. Doubling early is a level safer.

 

3 passes, then

1 P 1NT (semiforcing)

 

vs. 3 passes then

1 X 1NT(nonforcing)

 

The top one is not at all a safe one to walk in with a 5 card minor and about 9 hcp. There's a misfit implication that is not good, especially if they're just under points for game. Again, if I pass with 0-11, either partner will come in and get hammered a good portion of the time, or I'll end up making some ridiculous balancing call.

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I'm confused.

 

AQx

xxx

KTx

QT9x

 

People open with this hand?

 

People pass with this hand after P-P-P-1 white in MPs?

 

You's gonna get your clock cleaned passing the second time with this, in MPs. They'll end up in 1NT or some stupid 2 level contract which makes. Yeah, OK, one time in a trillion you'll end up doubled in a two level contract down 2. I'll take my chances.

Easy 1 opening.

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1) Hate double here- double should be shape-specific at the 1 level unless having extras

2) No, if I had a bid which said I was 11 pts 3334 I wouldn't use it here anyway. i) They're more likely to declare ii) Your hand shape is built for defending not declaring iii) Partner will balance when it's right to. An X with such a hand is just saying to partner you don't trust him to balance when he should, and is masterminding IMO.

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AQx

xxx

KTx

QT9x

 

People open with this hand?

Without even pausing for thought. Looks like a simple mini NT. I've played 10-12 in first 2 seats for a long time and think the advantages outweigh the downsides. If you are not playing a mini then 1 is fine if you have transfer responses.

 

Would I overcall on this? No way.

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Hi,

 

#1 you may be able to make a case for doubling,

as long as the heart suit is something like xxx.

Personnally I hate t/o with 4333 shape, so I am

not unpartial (?!).

As it is, you may also require a 4 card spade suit.

 

#2 Why should I do this?

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

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Looks like a simple mini NT.

If you're playing a mini-NT, why are you even reading the thread? The premise is that you passed an 11 count 3-3-3-4.

 

If you open this 1, ok, then you'll never have this problem.

 

For most of of us, this will end up being X now or X later. X now is safer. In IMPs, I'd say just let them win the part score and defend, but in MPs this is usually a loser.

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