What is 5C?

[SoTired]

Two very good players (one world-class, one wannabe expert), but occassional partnership, playing 2/1 with a variety of common add-ons have this auction:

 

1D p 1H p

4C p 5C

 

1) What is 5C?

 

2) Would it make a difference if the bid was made by one or the other?

[han]

A cuebid showing the ace, as well as denying a first or second round control in diamonds or spades. And since it bypasses 4H it must show a pretty good hand, so I'd expect good trumps.

 

Responder could have bid 4D as "last train".

 

I don't understand your second question. Are you asking if 5C would have a different meaning depending on whether the stronger or weaker player bids it? If so, no.

[gnasher]

A cue bid, as described by Han.

 

An uncommon but sensible add-on is to use it as Inclusion Keycard. That is, it asks for keycards, but says that a void should be treated as an ace. With this arrangement, you can do without those horrible space-consuming jump responses to 4NT, and you get to play a convention whose acronym is pronounced "ick".

[han]

I like inclusion keycards. The name I mean.

[pclayton]

I like inclusion keycards. The name I mean.

I don't like inclusive conventions. I think conventions should be heavily secured and you are forced to show credentials at the door.

 

I think its very unfair to those that have paid to attend.

[nige1]

A cue bid, as described by Han.

 

An uncommon but sensible add-on is to use it as Inclusion Keycard. That is, it asks for keycards, but says that a void should be treated as an ace. With this arrangement, you can do without those horrible space-consuming jump responses to 4NT, and you get to play a convention whose acronym is pronounced "ick".

Cunning idea Gnasher!