is THIS obvious?

[P_Marlowe]

X, but I dont mind 2H.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[rogerclee]

I think this is pretty close. I would double, but I think 2♥ is fine. If I double, we will catch the wrong strain a little more often, but I think this is offset by the fact that I definitely want to cooperate with a penalty pass.

[effervesce]

2♥ for me. I don't want to play in a 4-2 fit, and a 6-1 fit isn't terrible.

[dake50]

Would partner have neg-X with good 4xS, 5xS stretching to not lose S-fit?

Yes, then I won't quit to 2C, 2D likely good spot if partner bids that, so Double.

He heard my 1H =5xH, I got 1 more. That's not to say I have good hearts AK/AQ/KJ10 6th. KQJ98 5th would bid 2H.

[the hog]

2H and yes its obvious. You can't double with this shape.

I don't understand why you can't double with this shape. Regardless of the kind of free-bids you play, partner has to pass with a penalty double, right ? The only time you would consider not reopening with a double is when you're looking at length is the overcalled suit, as it makes it unlikely that partner passed with a penalty double.

Because pd will bid 2S with a non penalty x hand and a 4 card S suit. I am not that keen on playing 4-2 fits.

[Guest Jlall]

Maybe it depends on the 2C bidder but it seems quite unlikely to me that partner has a penalty pass

[gnasher]

Maybe it depends on the 2C bidder but it seems quite unlikely to me that partner has a penalty pass

So are you bidding 2♥ because you want to play there opposite a hand that isn't a penalty pass but couldn't take action over 2♣?

[Guest Jlall]

Maybe it depends on the 2C bidder but it seems quite unlikely to me that partner has a penalty pass

So are you bidding 2♥ because you want to play there opposite a hand that isn't a penalty pass but couldn't take action over 2♣?

Yes. Pass vs 2H is closeish but I think 2H is better. I'll let you run the sim lol. Usually with 6H that arent great and Hx of clubs I think pass is right though in this situation, but here I think we have enough HCP where 2C and 2H both make often enough.

[Codo]

I join the chorus of the 2 Heart bidders.

 

This will win often when partner had no penalty pass and.

And if he had a club suit, we will end in 3 NT anyway, so no big loss. Or do you expect to earn 1100 here with your double?

[gnasher]

I join the chorus of the 2 Heart bidders.

 

This will win often when partner had no penalty pass and.

And if he had a club suit, we will end in 3 NT anyway, so no big loss. Or do you expect to earn 1100 here with your double?

If partner has a penalty double of 2♣, I expect it to go down lots. I have a huge hand for defence.

 

More likely is that partner doesn't actively want to double 2♣, but chooses to pass my double because he has club length and nothing better to do. Opposite as good a defensive hand as this, we might well score 500 with no game on our way.

[andy_h]

X or 2H..think I'll lean towards X to keep my options open.

[CSGibson]

I'm surreptitiously slipping a small club in with my spades and then doubling. I'm taking the risk of being dummy in a 4-2 spade fit, but also have the eye-on-the-prize of 2♣X. Also, it does not preclude me from playing in hearts.