pclayton Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 In an ACBL game, you are dealt a perfectly normal weak 2: ♠QTx ♥xxx ♦KQxxxx ♣x and its w/w at matchpoints. LHO overcalls 3♣ and pard makes a penalty double. I posted this because my opponent made a pretty strange bid that paid off. Can you guess what it is? By the way, I disregarded Pass, since that is the obvious bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 3N or 4C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 I would guess 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 I'll guess 3♠ because 3NT doesn't seem sufficiently weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 3♦? Looking for and finding a 4-4 major suit fit, no doubt...maybe even a 5-4? Not sure if that qualifies as weird... actually, I can't really think of a plausible call that is automatically weird, other than silly ones like a splinter, 5♣, keycard, etc. 3Major is obviously possible.. so is 4 major... 3N is possible based on long, strong hearts and the diamond Ace and so on. I suspect the weirdness is not so much in the bid as it is in the hand with which the bid was made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambolino Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 3D which made!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 4♠ This presupposes he is playing or thinking that 3♣ as a takeout promising some major suit hand. I further suppose it didn't get alerted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velja_ja Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 4♠ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 3♠ is the call that was made. I hope you all got what I was trying to accomplish by asking the "strange bid possible' Of course his partner hit with ♠AKJxx ♥AKx ♦xx ♣xxx. They scored up a nice 170. Pard was wrapping 3♣. I felt totally railroaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Well, if 3♣ wasn't alerted, you should get some adjustment for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 just to clear things up, the auction read: 2♦(^) - 3♣ - X(*) - P;3♠ - all pass ^ - weak, diamonds* - penalties preemptor held: ♠QTx ♥xxx ♦KQxxxx ♣x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbp Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 just to clear things up, the auction read: 2♦(^) - 3♣ - X(*) - P;3♠ - all pass ^ - weak, diamonds* - penalties preemptor held: ♠QTx ♥xxx ♦KQxxxx ♣x Well that wasn't clear (to me). I thought you held the 2D opener, and your RHO bid something over the X. So my vote is meaningless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 A fairly strange bid that might pay off is 4♣ -- pick a major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 ... and pard makes a penalty double .... Was the double alerted as a penalty double? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 just to clear things up, the auction read: 2♦(^) - 3♣ - X(*) - P;3♠ - all pass ^ - weak, diamonds* - penalties preemptor held: ♠QTx ♥xxx ♦KQxxxx ♣x I'm confused. From the opening post (and Phil's later post), I thought the auction was: 2♦-3♣-DBL-3♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Oh yeah. I was confused too. I think the auction is: 2♦-3♣-X-? Then the question is "what bid by Advancer?" I have no guesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 The pronouns in the OP are a bit confusing. I think it means what do you do holding this hand (the weak 2♦ hand) after partner has made a penalty double of 3♣, because when his opponent held that hand, he didn't pass the penalty double. I don't think Phil was the one holding the weak 2♦ hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 I looked up the hand on myhands, and the auction was as I had understood it from phil's post (and as I had posted). 2D was announced as weak and the X was alerted as penalties. the weak 2♦ bidder responded with 3♠ on QTx to their p's penalty double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Now I know why I have problems reading other peoples' posts :rolleyes: It was my LHO that held the weak 2 and pulled the 'penalty' double to 3♠. What a catch he received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 OP was clear. I voted 3NT. Fooled me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olegru Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 My guess was correct :rolleyes:3 ♠ bid could be request to partner bid 3NT if he has ♥. Opener had ♦, expected partner to have ♣ stopper and strong hand after double and thought 3NT could have a reasonable chanses.I am sure it is a bad idea, but bad bidders sometimes get lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 I think it's pretty obvious that the diamond bidder thought the double was negative :rolleyes: and since p promissed 4-4 in the majors, he might as well bid his better one. in retrospect, 3♠ is clear. I am more amazed that the doubler didn't raise :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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