Fantunes problem

[Gerben42]

[hv=d=s&v=n&s=sajtxhkxxdaqxcaqx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

You open 1♣, showing a good 13+ with ♣ or a 15+ balanced hand. Since your 2NT opening bid is 21-22, this hand doesn't qualify.

 

1♣ (2♥) p (3♥) to you.

 

Would you bid differently if 1♣ was 16+, Precision or "SAYC-ish with a 21-22 2N-opening"?

[helene_t]

The question is what partner's pass denies. Playing standard I would try 3NT. Playing precision I would pass.

 

I have no experience with Fantunes so should probably not have voted. I voted pass, though. I am certainly not going to double with this shape but 3NT is an option.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

it is either pass or double, I would go with double,

but it may not work out.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[kenrexford]

This is another reason why I'm glad to play 19+ to 21 openings of 2NT.

[rbforster]

I voted for pass with my flat shape, somewhat unhappily. I'd be happy to pass in a precision context since partner with 8+ would have acted over 2♥ so if we miss game it would be a narrow one and maybe 3N can't make if we don't have enough tricks/stoppers.

[jtfanclub]

Wow, it's even. I X.

 

I have 3 hearts, opps probably have 9 so partner should have somewhere to run to, if he has no defense. If he has any defense at all I think we can set this bad boy.

 

With one fewer point (except changing the K of hearts to the Q, which would improve the hand) I would definitely pass in Precision, and I don't know in Standard American. But I think I can count on this hand for four tricks on defense.

[dake50]

At least an ace+ over minimum must act on his own.

Min to min+Q/K lets partner decide quite aware of combined assets.

Would partner's 6 have already acted? I hope for 4 useful.

Double, expect 3S from partner often just to stay below 3NT.

[marcD]

nice 2NT opening wtp ? looks like 21 to me :rolleyes:

 

contraty to what is stated in another of your posts think these hands (17-19 or 18-19 or 18-20 depending on system)cause a lot of pain in competition . you should not bid twice with them but you run the risk of being stolen blind . That's why I think having a 2C or 2D for these hands makes sense. If not follow your table feel pass if a reasonnable mood NT otherwise

[joshs]

[hv=d=s&v=n&s=sajtxhkxxdaqxcaqx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

You open 1♣, showing a good 13+ with ♣ or a 15+ balanced hand. Since your 2NT opening bid is 21-22, this hand doesn't qualify.

 

1♣ (2♥) p (3♥) to you.

 

Would you bid differently if 1♣ was 16+, Precision or "SAYC-ish with a 21-22 2N-opening"?

What are your methods over 2H?

 

In my strong club methods, x of 2H is takeout and only promises around 5 HCP. So I would pass here.

 

Here I would still be bidding over it as if partner is 15-17 balanced. Partner decided to not compete over 2H opposite 15-17. I am one trick stronger, but we are 1 trick higher, so if partner is right, we can't make anything above 3H.

 

I pass.

[Gerben42]

Our agreements are Lebensohl and negative double in this situation. Since partner is at least a Queen stronger than a normal min. opening, responder can bid with less than "standard".