han Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 MP, all red. AKxxAxxxAKQJx GIB bids 4D on your left, passed around to you. You double and partner surprises you with 4S. Your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I'd probably bid 5♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I pass.GIB bids 4♠ on nothing, any move from our side will lead to 6/7♠.We have a great hand, but we can't make 6/7♠ opposite nothing.GIB will find a stronger bid, if it has extras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Partner is not GIB, but indeed, partner will bid 4S on nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 It would be nice if 5♠ specifically asks for a diamond control. I don't think it has (nor that it should have) that meaning but I will probably bid it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 MP, all red. AKxx Ax xx AKQJxGIB bids 4D on your left, passed around to you. You double and partner surprises you with 4S. Your call? IMO 5♠ = 10, _P = 9, 4N = 5, 6♠ = 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 5♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Partner isn't going to bid more than 4♠ with QJxxx Kxx x xxxx or Qxxxxx xxx x xxx or QJxxx xxx Ax xxx. The danger in moving is that partner has something like Qxxx xxx xx xxxx or xxxxx xxx x xxxx. I think this less likely than that partner has enough for slam, so I bid 5♠. 5♠ shows a slam try without a diamond control. That is, it asks for both extra values and a diamond control. 5♦ would also show a slam try for spades, but would promise a diamond control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I'd pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I was wondering what jdonn would bid here, this kind of hand seems to be a favorite topic of his. This time partner had QJ-6th of spades and a stiff diamond so if you bid 5S then partner will bid 6 and you'd make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I would have missed this one and passed at MP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 I would have missed this one and passed at MP. Somebody explain that one to me. Isn't the crossover point for both IMP and MP on this hand 50%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 I would have missed this one and passed at MP. Somebody explain that one to me. Isn't the crossover point for both IMP and MP on this hand 50%? 1) I assume no but good question.2) I have no idea how to know or find out if this hand is a 50% slam at the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 GIB will not understand 5♠ and GIB will bid 7 over 6. The only 'slam try' that makes any sense to me is 4N, because GIB will respect the captaincy, but thats a little silly with ♦xx. If its money bridge, pass and take your .68 to $13.60. Just saw that pard isn't a GIB. Fine - 5♠ then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 It would be nice if 5♠ specifically asks for a diamond control. I don't think it has (nor that it should have) that meaning but I will probably bid it anyway. Actually think that 5♠ specifically DOES ask for a ♦ control. 5♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 The auction is too cramped to say that 5♠ specifically asks about diamonds. I am sure there are other threads in which the 5♠ bid on an auction like this was purely invitational. Playing with GIB, I would pass. Playing with a player, I would probably bid 5♠ and hope that partner interpreted it correctly, but I do not have a lot of confidence that the 5♠ bid specifically asks about diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 5 spades asks for a diamond control here. If I need to know about trump quality, there's this thing called roman key card blackwood that gets most of that information just find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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