Guest Jlall Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Imps, all vul. You hold: AT987 AJxx Jxx A. RHO opens 1S, LHO bids 1N(forcing), RHO bids 2S. Opponents are active, and you play double is penalty. Do you X or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Yeah, I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I dunno...if I X, then LHO will pick his best minor, where we can't take as many tricks. They are vul.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I'd pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Red card. They may have a profitable runout. But darned if I'm not going to try to get rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASkolnick Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Pass. Keep your plus. Looks like a club runout may be very profitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 No I pass. LHO will run to a minor if I double, but will likely sit out the misfit if I pass. I had a similar hand last night in a TG. KQ9xx Qxx ATx xx. (1S) - p - (2C) - 3H - (3S) - p - (4H) - p - (4S) - ?. I passed and we got it -2. 5♣ was icy on the 6-2 - although its not 100% they would have run (but they probably would have). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Hit it. I have just enough for partner to do his part and hit the minor. I especially like the Jxx in diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Red card. They may have a profitable runout. But darned if I'm not going to try to get rich. We have a saying in real estate. Sheep get sheared, pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered. It essentially is the same as splitting 9's. You have something good in your possession so why throw it away on something speculative? Fredin comes to mind... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Red card. They may have a profitable runout. But darned if I'm not going to try to get rich. We have a saying in real estate. Sheep get sheared, pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered. It essentially is the same as splitting 9's. You have something good in your possession so why throw it away on something speculative? Fredin comes to mind... :) I'll just say I think it's a different situation. If you defeat slam, it's pretty much always going to be a good score. Here we might have something good on our way and they might be sitting ducks. What if partner can double their runout? We do have a decent hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Almost every time I have seen these "double what's in front of your face" hands, either in match reports, tough games, or my own games, double has been right. I think it is easy to overthink problems like this, when in reality, you should double because +500 is not hard to obtain, and LHO will pull less frequently than you might suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I think you should Pass. There are too many ways that DBL could lose. - they might make it- they might run to a better spot- they might be about to bid 3S or 4S or who knows what else if you leave them alone Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I doubled, but I really think it is the worst thing I did all tournament, I think it is really bad for all the reasons mentioned by the passers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Just to add something else, I think that since we don't have them beat necessarily, and don't have enough HCP where we know LHO will pass, it's too much. If it was more like we have 18 points and 7 tricks in our hand, and we X hoping LHO won't run because we know we have a good penalty and they'll never make that's a different situation. Here they could be making and even when theyre not it might just be down 1 so the risk/reward is just bad all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I'm passing. Many things can go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Im sure the payoff of 2Sx going down is good compare to the chance they make it, however Im not cracking unless im almost sure that we can double every higher contract. On this hand even if partner manage to X 3C i dont feel that confident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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