Guest Jlall Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 You play 2/1 GF, imps white white. KT9xx --- AT9xxxx x. Partner opens 1H, what do you bid? If you bid 1S what is your rebid plan over the likely rebids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 1)one spade slow things down.2) over 2h rebid i bid 3d.....slow things down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 2) over 2h rebid i bid 3d.....slow things down. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 1NT planning to bid diamonds at the lowest possible level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 2) over 2h rebid i bid 3d.....slow things down. ??? i assume 3d shows very long d.........and 4 spades and nonforce? I assume I cannot show long spades.....and long d and game force here. If I have that hand I must bid one spade and not rebid 3d here?1h=1s=2h=?not 3 of minor? In other words typical loss the minor strong suit in 2/1......is the price we pay.AKXXX...VOID......AKXXX....XXXi AM STUCK .....WITH 3NT REBID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 My choice is 1♠. Over 1NT I guess I'll make the overbid of 3♦. Over 2♣ I will strain myself and bid 2♠Over 2♦ it's $Over 2♥ I'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 2♦, then spades then spades. I can't describe this hand by responding 1♠ or 1NT, so by overbidding just a little (OK, overbidding by a lot :) ) I can at least show most of the distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I am 7-5 and my partner opened the bidding? 2♦ game forcing followed by spades and spades. I will take the chance that this is a misfit and look for game or slam in one of my suits. It doesn't take much to produce a slam if there is a fit. Opposite Kx xxxxx KQx Axx you could have a grand with a little luck. Yes, I know I am dreaming, but that is not the point. The point is that this is a very good hand if there is a fit. I need to find that fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranebill Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I will bid 1 spade Rebidding 1NT 2 diamonds (unless nmf)2 clubs 2 diamonds2 diamonds 3 diamonds2 hearts pass (amending this to 3 diamonds after due consideration)2 spades (I forgot this bid, I pass this)2NT 3diamonds3 clubs 3 diamonds3 diamonds 5 diamonds3 hearts 4 hearts3 spades 4 spades3NT pass I am am not sure if I am correct, but looking at the hand, I think this is what I would do, due to playing limited amounts of conventions I am not brave enough to bid 2 diamonds as a game force bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Strain. 2♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 1♠ Tricky hand. When partner has some sort of fit for me (NT shows 2 diamonds) this is a nice hand. In a misfit I can offer only 1 or 2 tricks. Over:1NT - 2♦, sign off, longer ♦ than ♠2♣ - 2♠ can't bid 4th suit here2♦ - 3♦ happy to invite now, though the void in partners suit still worries me2♥ - pass, why make things worse?2♠ - 4♠ should have good chances in the cross ruff 2NT - 3♦ and 5♦ over 3NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Thank god I am not red, where the stakes are higher. I was going to bid 1♠, but then I thought about 2♣ by partner. That is possible and liable to make me puke... I simply cannot handle that call... I can't prefer to my void heart, I can't bid diamonds naturally, I can't rebid spades, and I can't pass or bid notrump. At least if he were to rebid 2♥, I could gamble a pass. So ugly those this hand is, and much as I hate to gf, I think 2♦, with all its obvious flaws, is slightly better 2♦, then over 2♥ 2♠ and pray2♠ yeah, that is going to happen :) 2N 3♦3♣ 3♦3♦ almost as unlikely (but just as welcome) as 2♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 You play 2/1 GF, imps white white. KT9xx --- AT9xxxx x. Partner opens 1H, what do you bid? If you bid 1S what is your rebid plan over the likely rebids? Hi, 1S. I will pass 2C and 2H. If 2C could be based on a 3 carder or is artificialI will try to sign off in 2H. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Hi, 1S. I will pass 2C and 2H. If 2C could be based on a 3 carder or is artificialI will try to sign off in 2H. People who 'preference' into a 5-0 fit when they have a seven card suit make baby Jesus cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I am not willing not to mention one of my suits. This means that over most likely rebids by partner I will have to force to game. Therefore I might as well bite the bullet immediately and show my suits in the right order: 2D. If we have a terrible misfit then my choice will work out badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Hi, 1S. I will pass 2C and 2H. If 2C could be based on a 3 carder or is artificialI will try to sign off in 2H. People who 'preference' into a 5-0 fit when they have a seven card suit make baby Jesus cry. Sometimes the 5-0 fit turns out to be a 6-0 fit.And sometimes opponents dont start to use the red card if you happen to stop at a low level. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Is 3♦ IJS available? I might choose that over 2♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I'll bid 1♠. I think catching a spade raise is one of the best ways to get to a reasonable game on this hand. My plan is: (1) If partner rebids 1NT, I will show a diamond invite (2♣...3♦ using 2-way nmf).(2) If partner rebids 2♣, I will show a 5-5 invite by rebidding 3♦. This is less of an overbid than forcing game.(3) If partner rebids 2♦ I'll bid 4th suit GF and look for slam, but probably end in 5♦.(4) If partner rebids 2♥ I will pass and hope for the best. At least partner usually raises with 3♠ and 6♥.(5) If partner bids 2♠ I will find out if he has four card support and look for slam if so (else I will play 4♠). I feel pretty confident that this path will be better than forcing game if partner does anything but rebid hearts at second turn. Even then, I will often come out ahead if partner has a strong suit and not very many diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Not such a bad hand if you play Kaplan inversion, as I do with my regular partners ! So 1NT showing the 5 spades, and over 2♣ bid 2♦ which is 4SF but then rebid 3♦ which is invitational strength. This is an overbid perhaps, but I think it important to show both suits. Obviously the 1NT finds a 5/3 spade fit immediately, and over the 1NT partner is not going to bid 2♥ without 6, so I think it better to pass 2♥ rather than make a forcing 3♦. If the bidding goes 1♥ 1NT 2♣ 2♦ 2♥ 3♦ and partner bids 3NT, I now bid 4♦ to show the hand well. As 1♥ 1NT 2♣ 3♦ would be a GF with this sort of shape, 4♦ in this sequence is to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 I vote for 2D. Unless we have a collosal misfit, I want to be in game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 I'm pretty amazed that people want to GF on this. Unless you catch a fit, the trick taking potential of this hand is rather limited. I'll start with 1♠. Then: --Over 1N - I'll call this an invite and go the 2♣ - 2♦ - 3♦ or 3♦ (wheer we play). --Over 2♣ - I'll make a 5-5- invite via 3♦. If pard bids 3N, I'm pulling to 4♦. --Over 2♥ - I'm passing, unless I have some sort of 2N stall available. --Over 2♠ - 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 I'm pretty amazed that people want to GF on this. Unless you catch a fit, the trick taking potential of this hand is rather limited. pfah. A 7 card suit IS a fit. You get more trump winners out of a 7-0 fit than your average 5-3 fit, and is it too much to hope that your partner has one of the little buggers? I'm not sure why all these comments about a fit. I mean, we all open at the freakin' 3 level with hands a lot less distributional than this. I don't disagree with any of your answers here, if partner rebids hearts, well, at least it won't be a 5-0. But worrying about a 5-7 hand not having a fit seems...odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 This really isn't all that hard unless you like to mastermind. 1S, then over: 1N-get out in diamonds2C- prefer to 2H (5-0 should play better than the 4-1)2N- look for the 5-3 spade fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 This really isn't all that hard unless you like to mastermind. 1S, then over:[..]2C- prefer to 2H (5-0 should play better than the 4-1) Personally, I'd regard giving preference on a void to a once-bid suit as masterminding. Why do you choose the heart fit which is likely to be 5-0 rather than the spade fit which might be any of 5-0, 5-1, 5-2 or 5-3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Why do you choose the heart fit which is likely to be 5-0 rather than the spade fit which might be any of 5-0, 5-1, 5-2 or 5-3? Some would consider 2S as encouraging and I do not think this hand good enough for that bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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