Apollo81 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 MPs ♠752♥Q72♦Q76♣QJ83 1♥-(pass)-2♣(1)-(pass)2♥(2)-(pass)-3NT(3)-all pass (1) 2♦ would have shown 5+(2) normally 6+(3) 15-17 Your lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 ♠7... go conservative against power auctions at mps... we have no realistic hope of beating this, and I won't be seduced by the foot-notes into leading a club... I'd lead a club at imps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 ♦6 It's ♠ or ♦. Partner did not follow 1♠ and I have more to offer in diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I'd go for a spade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 At MP this is a wtp spade. Tougher at imps, but I would go with a spade there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Agree with spade lead. No guarantee of success. Am I to understand that a 2♦ bid would have shown 5 or more diamonds, and that the 2♣ call is a "catch-all" bid with a game forcing hand but no suit to bid (other than clubs, perhaps)? The explanation is not very clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Alright I'm going to get the laughed at ♦Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Alright I'm going to get the laughed at ♦Q. I bet you get bottoms a lot, and some tops too...but nothing in between! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Am I to understand that a 2♦ bid would have shown 5 or more diamonds, and that the 2♣ call is a "catch-all" bid with a game forcing hand but no suit to bidYes, exactly. The explanation is not very clear. What part of "2♦ would have shown 5+" was unclear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Alright I'm going to get the laughed at ♦Q. I bet you get bottoms a lot, and some tops too...but nothing in between! Actually I almost never do this. I never sit down with the mentality that I'm outclassed and I don't swing unnecessarily. But I really feel like this is the time to try something. If I exit passively or worse lead a low diamond, declarer will clear hearts, get back in, and run hearts. After 6 rounds of hearts and two side tricks, which 5 cards am I keeping? I'll probably get thrown in to lead from my diamond anyway, so I might as well burn the queen at trick 1. Plus by leading the Q declarer might misplay with split honors and partner having the J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Am I to understand that a 2♦ bid would have shown 5 or more diamonds, and that the 2♣ call is a "catch-all" bid with a game forcing hand but no suit to bidYes, exactly. The explanation is not very clear. What part of "2♦ would have shown 5+" was unclear? The fact that you didn't say anything about the strength of a 2/1 bid or what other bids meant. "GF" might have helped, and the fact that 2♣ did not promise clubs but denied 4 spades, 5 diamonds, or a direct heart raise of some sort might have helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dude did you read the OP at all? Do you ask your opponents questions to which the answers are obvious or irrelevant every time you have a problem? you didn't say anything about the strength of a 2/1 bid or what other bids meant. "GF" might have helped I said RHO showed 15-17, whether the 2/1 was F1 or GF is irrelevant. and the fact that 2♣ did not promise clubs but denied 4 spades, 5 diamonds, or a direct heart raise of some sort might have helped Obviously RHO does not have any of these things when he bid 3NT. Whether 2♣ denied them or not is irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 This is a 6NT equivalent auction and I'm leading a spade as giving nothing away? Queen of clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dude did you read the OP at all? Do you ask your opponents questions to which the answers are obvious or irrelevant every time you have a problem? you didn't say anything about the strength of a 2/1 bid or what other bids meant. "GF" might have helped I said RHO showed 15-17, whether the 2/1 was F1 or GF is irrelevant. and the fact that 2♣ did not promise clubs but denied 4 spades, 5 diamonds, or a direct heart raise of some sort might have helped Obviously RHO does not have any of these things when he bid 3NT. Whether 2♣ denied them or not is irrelevant. It can be useful to know what the bids meant at the time that they were made. By the way, exactly how large is the chip on your shoulder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Result: low club necessary to set/hold to 3 depending on what they do. Most other leads let them make 10 tricks. I led a high club. the club position was Kx on left, T9xx on right and partner has Jx hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 MPs ♠ 752 ♥ Q72 ♦ Q76 ♣ QJ831♥-(pass)-2♣(1)-(pass)2♥(2)-(pass)-3NT(3)-all pass(1) 2♦ would have shown 5+(2) normally 6+(3) 15-17 Your leadIMO ♠ = 10, ♦ = 7, ♣ = 4, ♥ = 1Admittedly, declarer may have 4 ♠ but dummy is certain to be minor-suited with at least 4 ♣ -- probably 3235 but 3244 at least - so Apollo81's ♣ lead smacks of divine inspiration :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 you read the auction wrong. RHO is the one who bid clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 you read the auction wrong. RHO is the one who bid clubs :rolleyes: Thank you :( Story of my life :) but it only reinforces my reasoning :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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