gwnn Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 QJT9xQxxKQTxx- 3♣ from your right, all white IMPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 I would double, the least of evils. If partner doesn't pass I feel okay. Even if he does, it might be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 3S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 agree with dbl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 I would double, the least of evils. If partner doesn't pass I feel okay. Even if he does, it might be right. interesting opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 I am torn 3♠ is an overbid, by a significant margin: the suit is too short and too weak for 3 level action double is horrific: we will dread a pass by partner, and 3N won't fill our hearts with joy either. Nor will 3♥... we can hardly bid over 3♥ 4♦ shows our shape, more or less, but we are 2 Aces short of having the values Pass is the technically correct bid, but it cannot be winning bridge to pass this hand... partner will almost certainly have too many clubs to take action, and even if he does, we will often be unable to catch up without taking a completely unilateral action. I think 3♠ is the least of the various evils that confront us I left out 3♦... that is a better call, imo, than 4♦... and it leaves room for 3♥ by partner... while 3♠ will effectively eliminate any hope of finding an 8 card, and most hope of finding a 9 card, heart fit. The (obvious) knock on 3♦ is that we won't find an 8 card spade fit and may miss even a 9 or 10 card fit. So I rank the calls: 3♠ 90 (no call merits 100), 3♦ 70, pass 50, double 40, 4♦ 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 He who has shortness must strive to act - therefore I'm definitely bidding something. This hand looks something not too far away from 3 suited to me, so I'll double. I greatly fear the tap in 3S, and I don't have enough for 4D (assuming this is leaping michaels) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 No offense but I think double is bad to very bad. Partner will be passing way too often when it's wrong, and when he bids 3N you have to pass and you may have missed a 5-3 or (gasp, yes!) 5-4 spade fit. Even if partner bids 3H that could be bad, and if partner makes the dream bid of 4H he may have been bidding that over 3S anyways, and he may be doing it with something like 3433 or 3424 where 4S is better anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I think I have enough playing strength to bid 3♠ here and prefer it to X as may not enjoy hearing PD bid 3NT or passing or even 3♥ with my Qxx only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 3S for me.Dbl is the worst of the available options. First, because partner may leave it in and I really am not looking forward to defending. Second because he may bid 3NT and my hand isn't NT'ish, plus we easily miss 5-3 spade fit, even 5-4 spade fit if his clubs are good and he is balanced. Third, he may bid 4H and I would not know what to do, pass probably. Fourth, he may bid 3H and I don't know what I should do next - we could be in 4-3, or worst case, 3-3 heart fit while having a 5-3 spade fit if I pass, and he could think I am strong one-suited if I now bid spades. I am not so concerned about missing possible diamond fit but even that miss could be bad for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 3♠ is my choice. I don't really consider it the least of evils. It just seems like the right call. Everything else is far worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 When in doubt, go for strain. 4♦ (♦+♠) for me. (4♣ is ♦+♥, right?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I agree with Mikeh that no bid is worth 100 points and go for 3 ♠.There is no way to find 4 Heart after this start but anything else is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 When in doubt, go for strain. 4♦ (♦+♠) for me. (4♣ is ♦+♥, right?) Of course, you never get dealt both majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 When in doubt, go for strain. 4♦ (♦+♠) for me. (4♣ is ♦+♥, right?) Of course, you never get dealt both majors. With both majors, double and then bid 4♣ if needed, unless you play Roman Jumps (4♥). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 When in doubt, go for strain. 4♦ (♦+♠) for me. (4♣ is ♦+♥, right?) Wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 3♠ even though it's a bit of an overbid. Can you imagine doubling and having partner bid 4♥ with 3-3 in the Majors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrecisionL Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Pass. Partner will expect more defense for a double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 3S and hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 4♦ (♦+♠) for me. (4♣ is ♦+♥, right?) Wrong.Since we've embarked on this digression, I think that the standardish methods of 4♣ = majors 4♦ = ♦ + a majorare also wrong. 4♣ should be the ambiguous one, because you have 4♦ available as a relay to find out which it is. I prefer: 4♣ = S + another 4♦ = redswhich allows overcaller to bid his second suit without reversing if there is further competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Yeah I also like 3♠ best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilgan Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 3♠, please be understanding partner. P is "safe", but not winning bridge imo. Could end up being right on the hand tho.X confuses me. There are too many ways this could go way wrong. P = eek. 3NT = eek. 3H = blah.. what if we belong in spades?3S would ideally be stronger, but at least we get our spade suit and OFFENSIVE hand out there.The bids discussing leaping to 4m (whatever it shows) confuse me as well. This hand is iffy at 3♠, why are we suddenly eager to leap to the 4 level and -almost- GF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 3♠ because someone has to act and we have the void. I strongly dislike all other calls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 4♦ (♦+♠) for me. (4♣ is ♦+♥, right?) Wrong.Since we've embarked on this digression, I think that the standardish methods of 4♣ = majors 4♦ = ♦ + a majorare also wrong. 4♣ should be the ambiguous one, because you have 4♦ available as a relay to find out which it is. I prefer: 4♣ = S + another 4♦ = redswhich allows overcaller to bid his second suit without reversing if there is further competition. I like this. Except, you are not well placed after 3♣-4♣-5♦. After 3♣-4minor-5♣, Advancer is well-placed. After 3♣-X-5♣, Advancer is OK, and doubler still has the option to double again. Not sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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