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5-level belongs to the opponents


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  1. 1. Your call

    • Double
      13
    • 5H
      24
    • Pass
      3
    • Something else
      2
    • I object so strongly to the 2H overcall I abstain
      4


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[hv=d=n&v=b&s=saq8hakj984dk72c8]133|100|Scoring: IMP

P 1 2 P

4 4 ?[/hv]

 

Game all, partner dealt.

48-board KO match.

Partner had plenty of other ways to raise hearts.

Your pass would not be forcing over 4S.

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5H

 

I would not have bid 2H - because of this sort of auction, but I can express an opinion from where we are.

 

Partner doesn't need much for us to make, and opponents may well be making their contract. Two reasons for bidding on. In addition having bid 2H, I would be anxious about how much of my hand I had already bid.

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5.

 

I agree with the 2 call.

 

There are actually three reasons for bidding 5:

 

1) You may make.

2) They may make, and 5 will be a good sac if it does not make.

3) They may bid 5.

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[hv=d=n&v=b&s=saq8hakj984dk72c8]133|100|Scoring: IMP

P 1 2 P

4 4 ?Game all, partner dealt.

48-board KO match.

Partner had plenty of other ways to raise hearts.

Your pass would not be forcing over 4S.[/hv]

IMO 2 overcall was fine, Now..

5 = 10, _P = 8, _X = 7

The five-level belongs to ME

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Huh, when I wrote my post, there were 4 votes for X, one vote for 5, and my vote for pass.

 

I have no problem with 5. I'm simply convinced that when my partner bid 4, she had a plan, and I don't want to ruin that plan.

 

Eh, I'll change my vote. 5. I cannot imagine how partner could have a trap with my spade holding.

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With a likely very black hand on your right, isn't there any slaminterest over here?

 

Give partner something like xx/Qxxx/AQx/xxxx and we're claiming at trick 1. Ok, thats' a very perfect minimum, but I still think you should bid 5C or something.

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What on earth would you do instead of 2?

Lol, seriously? Why do you make comments like this? If you added a single jack the the hand I bet you would say "What on earth would you do instead of doubling?"

 

FWIW I think this is a clear X, this hand is way too good to just overcall 2H, and you have a good enough hand/suit where you are comfortable with pretty much every continuation of the auction.

 

Now I would bid 5H, but I don't think it is so clear. If partner has club values we need to be doubling, and if he has diamonds it could be a double game swing.

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I agree with 2, altho I also agree that it is close to double then hearts... that spade holding is an upgrade as is the heart texture.

 

My immediate reaction was a wtp double... extra values, extra defence, but my second reaction is that this is far tougher than it superficially appears. As Justin says, it depends on where partner's values are. I don't agree that RHO is necessarily all black: yes, he is slightly more likely to be all black than all pointed, but not by an overwhelming margin.

 

My second reaction is thus to bid 5, aware that this may trade +200 for minus 100 or 200.. and 400 is 9 imps, so this isn't the classic case of cheap insurance.

 

Nevertheless, bidding is right whenever either or both contracts make and wrong only when both fail, so the odds appear to favour bidding on.

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Frances,

 

What was the layout this time?

 

I like to give polls a day or two to mature. Not everyone is logged on non-stop.

 

Funnily enough when I had the hand my immediate reaction was a wtp double but then I thought for quite a lot longer and eventually bid 5H.

 

I don't like double-then-bid on single-suited hands unless I'm mega-strong (i.e. prepared to bid my suit at the 5-level) but I agree on this hand your spade honours make it less likely that you will have to make a 5-level decision.

 

As it happens overcalling 2H has worked well as you know more about partner's hand than if you had doubled.

 

With a likely very black hand on your right, isn't there any slaminterest over here?

 

Give partner something like xx/Qxxx/AQx/xxxx and we're claiming at trick 1. Ok, thats' a very perfect minimum, but I still think you should bid 5C or something.

 

I think your quoted hand is a 2S bid, but give partner

 

xx

xxxx

Ax

xxxxx

 

and you still want to be in slam

 

Anyway, on this hand bidding 5H is superlatively right as all of 4S, 5C (their way) and 5H make.

 

RHO has

KJ10xxxx

Q

A

AJxx

 

and partner

xx

10xxxx

Qxxx

xx

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What on earth would you do instead of 2?

Lol, seriously? Why do you make comments like this? If you added a single jack the the hand I bet you would say "What on earth would you do instead of doubling?"

Sorry yeah, I didn't consider that it might be good enough to double first. It just didn't cross my mind. I just looked at it and saw a typical max vulnerable overcall (which I still think it is) but maybe it's a better hand than I gave it credit.

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