Finch Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sa1092hkj976dcak32]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥ 2♠ x P?[/hv] 48-board IMPs, teams of 4 KO match.What do you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 It feels really wrong to pass since you may have a slam etc, and if partner's diamonds are not that great it could be a huge disaster. On the other hand, you have no great bid over the X (3C is not enough, 4C bypasses 3N and/or a juicy penalty, 3N/3S don't really do anything).. and you may be killing them here with no assurance of getting to the right spot if you bid. Anyways, I don't know... I would probably just bid 4C at this vulnerability and feel really stupid when I go down in 5C. I think we have good enough potential for slam/ making game into 300 to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I pass this one. Too many downsides to bidding and aiming for a slam is really very optimistic indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Dealer: South Vul: N/S Scoring: IMP ♠ A1092 ♥ KJ976 ♦ [space] ♣ AK32 1♥ (2♠) _X (_P)??48-board IMPs, teams of 4 KO match.What do you do? IMO _P = 10, 2N = 9, 3♣ = 8, 4♣ = 7, 3N = 4, 3♠ = 2.If partner has 5 or more clubs you may regret passing but, sometimes, hands like this play badly because of ♠ over-ruffs. Playing a 12-14 notrump, If you don't pass then 2N is probably enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 IMO _P = 10, 2N = 9, 3♣ = 8, 4♣ = 7, 3N = 4, 3♠ = 2. 2NT = 9? 3♣ = 8? lol Anyway I think passing is too serious a position at these colors. I will bid 4♣, since 5♣ should play quite well, and if 6♣ is on, this is the best way to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Passing here is too dangerous and unilateral to me. I'm not that afraid they'll make, eventhough it IS possible. I'm more concerned about missing out on a better score. +300 is bad if we have +600 available, +500/800 even more so if 1370 is there. I'll make the slight overbid of 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 1) I concede 0454 hand are tough2) I will try 3 clubs.3) I thought pass is very very close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 You play strong NT.I don't know if it makes any difference at all, but - this is in boards 25-32- before this set you were 29 imps up, and so far you have gone for 300 against nothing (which won't be duplicated) but made a very dodgy vul game- LHO has twice won the Venice Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I bid 4♣ and am very optimistic about where it may lead. Not sure why it has been called an overbid. I mostly agree with skaerans post. nige1s rankings seem quite..... well lets just say he was smoking some of the good stuff at the time :P 2NT deserves about a 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 You play strong NT.I don't know if it makes any difference at all, but- this is in boards 25-32- before this set you were 29 imps up, and so far you have gone for 300 against nothing (which won't be duplicated) but made a very dodgy vul game- LHO has twice won the Venice CupIMO it does makes a difference that, with less than half the match to go, you are 29 imps up. I guess the main thing is not to mastermind the deal with some disastrous ulilateral effort that will demoralise team-mates. Perhaps passing 2♠X is a bit of a position to take but should be worth a plus score -- even against a Venice Cup holder Also, if you are playing a strong notrump, then 2N seems an underbid. JLall, Jbonn and Co all suggest 4♣, which seems fine on values but IMO is a bit commital if partner could hold say♠xxx ♥x ♦AQJxx ♣QxxxBracing myself for more derision from rogerclee and Jdonn, :) my revised view is3♣ = 10, _P = 9, 4♣ = 8 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I'm sitting. We might or might not have a loser in the majors (pard could be 2-2), but there's a lot of work involved with 6♣ on a 4-4 fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 At the table I passed. I think the only real choice is between pass and 4C, anything else is too wimpy.I think on reflection 4C is possibly right, because although partner's double doesn't promise support for both minors, the 'death' distribution of 3=2=5=3 seems much less likely given our spade length. Anyway, in ascending order: 3NT = -1002NT = +1203C = +170Pass = +5004C = +600, +620 or +1370 Partner hasQJ (!)A1098xxQJ10xx I'm not totally convinced you will get to slam after a 4C bid as the source of tricks in spades is a little unexpected from both sides. At the other table the player with partner's hand rather feebly passed 2S and scored up +150, so we were pleasantly surprised to be 8 imps in on the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Bidding the slam looks too tough given partner has no bid except 5♣ over 4♣. Given they have a 9-card diamond fit they may also run from 2♠-X. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Bidding the slam looks too tough given partner has no bid except 5♣ over 4♣. Given they have a 9-card diamond fit they may also run from 2♠-X.Partner might try 4♥ over 4♣ to offer a choice of games. But 6♣ seems hard to reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Bidding the slam looks too tough given partner has no bid except 5♣ over 4♣. Given they have a 9-card diamond fit they may also run from 2♠-X. Paul Well, partner could bid 4S (good 5C bid) over 4C, but not clear that he will. LHO has no reason to run from 2Dx looking at a 6241. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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