pclayton Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Assume you are playing 2/1 with a forcing NT. Pard opens 1♠. Lets say you have a hand with ♠KQ doubleton and an additional scattered 2-3 points. In what circumstances would you raise to 2♠ opening, if any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I cannot imagine why I would want to lie about the length of my trump support. For now, I bid 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroG Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I voted no... See no reason to make a simple raise even with a good doubleton... specially since my 1NT is forcing and the 2S rebid show a doubleton... Pedro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjames Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Never, I saw Tor Helness sponors partner do this once, and Tor just shaked his head when he saw the dummy and asked why his partner couldn't just bid 1N like the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Sure, if the next opponent interferes. Even if he doubles, I'd be more likely to bid 2♠ than a non-forcing 1NT.(Edit- this is by partnership agreement) Other than that, um, if the next player is jumping up and down in his seat with his hand on the bidding box, maybe. I think it's more of a psyche than a judgement call outside of competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Never 2S. Curious about the scattered 2-3 HCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Sure, if the next opponent interferes. Even if he doubles, I'd be more likely to bid 2♠ than a non-forcing 1NT.(Edit- this is by partnership agreement) Other than that, um, if the next player is jumping up and down in his seat with his hand on the bidding box, maybe. I think it's more of a psyche than a judgement call outside of competition. Same thoughts. I'd easily make a 2♠ raise here, but because 2♥ would show a normal 2♠ (semi-constructive or constructive) raise for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Agree with Tor Helness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Never 2S. Curious about the scattered 2-3 HCP. KQ + extra Q / QJ / K - thats all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Never in an uncontested auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Glad no one has said KQ is as good as xxx yet lol. The missing third trump is huge for partner's evaluation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Never in an uncontested auction. But in the parens part he does say "in comp". So, in competition, would you ever do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Never in an uncontested auction. But in the parens part he does say "in comp". So, in competition, would you ever do it? I would do it in comp if: I had a GOOD hand like KQ xxx Kx Jxxxxx after 1S-(2H) or something, where I felt I had to bid but could not make a X. Or with a bad hand after 1S X w/r if I had agreed 2S showed a garbage raise and could be on a doubleton (I believe meckwell always alert that auction as could be a doubleton). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Never uncontested, and very rarely in comp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 i wouldn't do it in a contested auction either. opps might end up playing the hand and p might get the wrong inferential count early. if i can show a delayed raise, that might be different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I never do it ever (with one exception) and think it's quite terrible because it consistently causes partner to overbid in competition. I might well choose a 5-2 fit for game later if 3NT looks at all shaky though. My one exception is after 1♠ (x) where I can bid 2♠ as a bad raise, because this keeps partner from overcompetiting if he is smart, and also causes the opponents to misevaluate and perhaps think they have fewer spades than they do have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Never in an uncontested auction. But in the parens part he does say "in comp". So, in competition, would you ever do it? No, but I do not have agreements with my partners that 2♠ can ever show a really awful hand. I do it occasionally when partner has overcalled 1♠, particularly if RHO just made a negative double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I have done it, I will do it again. Depending on the hand, it may well be always. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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