karlson Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 matchpoints, w/r xxAT9xxAT9xxx 1 ♦ by partner. Your options are - Any level of diamonds is natural, weakish- 2♠ showing a game force with diamonds. Partner will show shortness.- 2♥ showing an invite with diamonds (usually, but not always, 5+ diamonds, you also have 2N invitational). Partner will show either concentration below 3m, or shortness with a GF.- 3M splinter- 2♣ game forcing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 invite in D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 What does 1♦ show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted May 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 1d is standard, strong NT context, 4 cards unless 4432, we open pretty sound in the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Gameforce in diamonds, 2S in your system. In your system, if opener does not have shortness (I assume *shortness* really means singleton or void, not xx), what are his systemic bids without shortness? I think shortness in major can be ruled out and I strongly suspect his hand has no singleton club either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I bid 3♠ since it's my most preemptive option and nothing will allow me to describe my hand perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I would bid 2C and then keep bidding diamonds. Second choice would be to bid 2S and then bid clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 2C fit non jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 2♣ + self-propel to the 5 level, unless pard stops to dbl their 4M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 People seem to be planning a lot of bidding. Given our shape and RHO's silence, isn't it quite likely that partner has a 4=4=3=2 shape? I'd just show an invitation for the time being. I can always change my mind if the opponents get together in a major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 This hand is worth a GF, so the issue is whether 2♣ or 2♠ is better. It seems to me that the continuations over 2♣ are a little easier, so I will do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 matchpoints, w/r ♠ x ♥ x ♦ AT9xx ♣ AT9xxx1 ♦ by partner. Your options are- Any level of diamonds is natural, weakish- 2♠ showing a game force with diamonds. Partner will show shortness.- 2♥ showing an invite with diamonds (usually, but not always, 5+ diamonds, you also have 2N invitational). Partner will show either concentration below 3m, or shortness with a GF.- 3M splinter- 2♣ game forcingIMO 3♠ = 10, 3♥ = 9, 5♦ = 8, 2♣ = 7, 2♠ = 6, 2♥ = 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 I'll show a GF in diamonds. If partner has the weak NT hand type, after 1D-2S; 2N (no shortness)-3C; 3N I'll give partner a chance to win the board in the play. The CT9 are huge, any club honor gives us good chances to take 5 clubs, the DA, and 3 major suit tricks when partner has the 4432 minimum. I think I can handle LHO doubling 2S and RHO bounding; I'll bid 5D and then double any further competition. 2C will probably get 2M or 2N after which 3D-something I cannot bid 3NT if it's right. I'm not prepared to give up good chances at 430 to play diamonds at matchpoints. If there is a slam, starting 2S probably gets there as frequently as starting 2C. Inviting is false economy, if anything good is happening (partner has extras, big D fit, big C fit) I will be unable to convince partner that this is now a slam auction, and I will be forced to guess the final contract. Since I can't bid 3NT I'm going to guess 6 of a minor. If I'm going to do that, I might as well try to bid a slam scientifically. Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 I would just invite. GFing this isn't horrible but I want to let pard out with a weak NT. If I played weak NT's where pard has real diamonds or a strong NT, I'd happily GF this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 2♠. Weighted this a long time against 2♥, as I generally dont want to mislead partner. I plan to bid to the 5-level anyway, and my two aces are enough for me, to respect a warning-double from partner, if the opponents bid to five of a major. We might very well end up in a game, but we will simply miss to many slams, if I start by inviting. Of course I fear 4-4-3-2, and if opps stay silent, and partner makes his strongest attempt at getting to 3nt, I might pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 2C fit non jump. Blacky's status as "most frequentry abused convention" is being challenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 People seem to be planning a lot of bidding. Given our shape and RHO's silence, isn't it quite likely that partner has a 4=4=3=2 shape? I'd just show an invitation for the time being. I can always change my mind if the opponents get together in a major. Think I basically agree with this. No option is ideal. 2♠ and 2♣ game forcing could get us into 5♦ when it really isn't on. Either 3M is quite likely to induce partner to bid 3N with a robust stopper there completely unaware that he needs the same thing in oM. 4♦ could be right - but there again will partner raise to 5 when he should? 5♦ could be right. I'm not sure 2♥ invitational is correct either - but it seems the most accurate for now and I'll get to take a view later - at which time it may be as much of a guess as it is now - or perhaps I'll learn something useful before then. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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