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Never open 1NT with 4-4 in the majors?


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I also disagree, but it has some logic. 1NT is used as some sort of preemptive weapon. If you have both mastersuits, you don't need to lose the entire 1-level. But when playing 5 card Majors, you're still not showing your real suit... Also, you get rebid problems imo, to show your exact HCP range.

 

I'll still open 1NT with 4-4M...

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Barry Crane was the ulitimate matchpoint player. His advice, I think would be better geared for a matchpoint game. In fact, correct me if I am wrong, but Matchpoint precision had the same "rule" about not opening 1NT with 4-4 in the majors, and explained it along the lines of the bad result you will get at your table using weak notrump if bidding went 1NT-all pass, while at the other tables the weak notrump hand opened a minor and their partner responded a major.... since you safely play two of the major in 4-4 fit whch is likely to take at least one extra trick.

 

Ben

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Barry Crane was the ulitimate matchpoint player. His advice, I think would be better geared for a matchpoint game. In fact, correct me if I am wrong, but Matchpoint precision had the same "rule" about not opening 1NT with 4-4 in the majors, and explained it along the lines of the bad result you will get at your table using weak notrump if bidding went 1NT-all pass, while at the other tables the weak notrump hand opened a minor and their partner responded a major.... since you safely play two of the major in 4-4 fit whch is likely to take at least one extra trick.

 

Ben

Think you are right about Matchpoint Precision Ben ( but since I have not yet found the book sonce we moved) I couldn't look it up :( but we play it at ALL times

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Barry Crane was the ulitimate matchpoint player. His advice, I think would be better geared for a matchpoint game. In fact, correct me if I am wrong, but Matchpoint precision had the same "rule" about not opening 1NT with 4-4 in the majors, and explained it along the lines of the bad result you will get at your table using weak notrump if bidding went 1NT-all pass, while at the other tables the weak notrump hand opened a minor and their partner responded a major.... since you safely play two of the major in 4-4 fit whch is likely to take at least one extra trick.

 

Ben

I think Ben is right too.

 

However if you adopt this policy then you also have to consider the consequences. If the auction now goes 1-1NT do you raise with 16 points? This will get you a level higher than most of the field who will bid 1NT-Pass.

 

Also it means more work on the 1-2/ sequences as you can hold any balanced hand in the 12-19 point range.

 

Personally I advocate that balanced hands should open, or rebid, NT.

 

Paul

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playing a weak nt where a 1nt rebid shows 14-16(17), i'd still open this with my better minor... if pard shows a major, i can raise.. if it goes 1D/2C, i just bid 2H (not a reverse)... this is at matchpoints, i might open 1nt at imps
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I used to play 1NT as 15+1/2 - 17+1/2 range, meaning with both 15 and 18 you have to pick your opening, playing there I made good results opening every 4 card major with 15 or 18 with 1 minor. Never tried it with 16/17 because my partner is suposed to expect unbalanced after a level 3 raise in a major so I cannot argue there.

 

Now I play 15-17 as most strong NT pairs do, and I often still devaluate my 15 with 4-4 in majors, still getting good results.

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