the hog Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 Imps vs strong but aggressive opponents. v vs nv. Playing behind screens, so no ui problems. KxxxxAxxxxxxT You hold the above collection, pass in first seat and hear this bidding: P (3C) P (P)? Do you re open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helium Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 I guess i whould depend on my "table feeling"when im at the table and the x-es in the hand,but i guess i whould X, but im not 100% sure about this bid.whit diffrent vouln i whould x whitout question.kenneth:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 i'd x also, mainly cuz my spades are weakish and i have 4 hearts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 I am an aggressive balancer (or at least I think I am). However, sometimes you just have to let them play the hand. This is one of those times. I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Reopen? No, why?? :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 My partner held this. I don't know if I would have had the guts to double - I would certainly have thought about it. Partner's X gave me an easy decision with: xxxxQJ9xQAKJx We picked up 300 for a 6 Imp gain. (-50 at the other table in who knows what). Interestingly Marston - Burgess in their heyday regarded doubling on hands such as the posted one as automatic. Mind you they play a heck of a lot better than I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 A very reasonable double. The rule for bidding directly over a preempt is "put 7 points in your partner's hand and bid what you think you can make." (Some authorites say 8 points. ) In the balancing seat, all your actions should have a minimum a King or so below the corresponding direct bid. So with the actual hand I feel we have a fair play for three of a major opposite a typical 10-11 count with a fit. I wouldn't feel this way about most 7 counts with this shape--the 3 controls definitely favor aggression. Zarpoint enthusiast will note that the hand counts to 23: 7 HCP + 3 controls + 9 (longest suit + next longest suit) + 4 (longest suit - shortest suit) which makes the hand almost opening bid strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Fourrière Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 Double seems obvious to me (you have the pattern, the upper suits, and the points are evenly divised until proved otherwise), but I think I would pass if I hadn't passed first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted March 19, 2004 Report Share Posted March 19, 2004 I think the double is automatic. Specially when pd is a non-passed hand, there're a lot of hands with values that can't take an inmediate action over a 3c bid so protecting is mandatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 I almost have to X, I am short in their suit, and I do have 3 other suits. Not a strong hand but I do have 9 cards in the majors. Mike :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishovnbg Posted March 22, 2004 Report Share Posted March 22, 2004 ------------------------------------- Hi Ron! ------- To reopen in vul vs not at 3 level you need to have a real chance for game... Have you? Actually not, because you need strong NT hand from partner with well placed values - too optimistic, even for me :D . Much more probably is to give to opps deserved prise of 800/1100 while fighting for score - not acceptable in my opinion. ------ Yes, I already sow both hands... congratualtions, well done, as I said to my opp(star) at last abalucy tourney, who bid 3NT after 1NT(15-17) opening with: xx,xxx,KQxxx,Qxx and made it doubled, I still wonder why not redoubled :D . ------By the way, difficult question: what is suppose your partner to bid after your take out dbl with: xxx, KQxxx, KJx, Kx, will you expect to play game without double and how many tricks you expect to make? :P ------ By the way, I like to play poker too B) ------------------------------------------------------ Misho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted March 22, 2004 Report Share Posted March 22, 2004 By the way, difficult question: what is suppose your partner to bid after your take out dbl with: xxx, KQxxx, KJx, Kx, will you expect to play game without double and how many tricks you expect to make? :) Misho 3♥, pd is a passed hand and he is protecting you, so don't hang him. Mike ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2004 I am inclined to agree Misho, I probably would have passed. One mitigating circumstance here was that the opponents are very aggressive players; they were also behind in the match. For the record, opener held: xKxKxxxQ98xxx Serves him right. Even more pleasing is that this was an ex partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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