paulg Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sajxxhdaqxxxxck10x]133|100|Scoring: IMPWest North East South - - - 1♦ 2♥ Pass Pass ? (2♥ is weak)[/hv]You are South. This is not a good problem as there are only two answers (imo), but that hasn't prevented my partner and I having the mildest disagreement about the best reopening call. If it matters, you are the pleb at the table as everyone else has a star. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I think the only call is X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Yeah, dbl seems pretty clear. The void isn't good, but we got a lot of defensive tricks, so it should be ok. And if pard bids, the hand will grow lots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I think the only call is X. So do I. There was a hand at the S4s where we were the only pair I know about not to go for an 800+ penalty when a similar (ish) hand did not reopen with a double at the 1-level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I think the only call is X. What Justin said or East passed down his game forcing values to lure you into dbl to win extra IMPs for the overtricks.(Does anybody believe that?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted May 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 OK, I'm convinced. In reality i never got the chance to make the decision as RHO bid 4♣ and we eventually took +500 from 4♥-X (down 3). Partner, holding ♠Qxxxxx ♥AJxxx ♦- ♣xx, now believes his pass was wrong and he should have simply bid 2♠. in the other room, my hand had a different bidding problem after 1♦-(1♥)-1♠ - (5♣). The selection was 6♠ and this went one down. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 OK, I'm convinced. In reality i never got the chance to make the decision as RHO bid 4♣ and we eventually took +500 from 4♥-X (down 3). Partner, holding ♠Qxxxxx ♥AJxxx ♦- ♣xx, now believes his pass was wrong and he should have simply bid 2♠. in the other room, my hand had a different bidding problem after 1♦-(1♥)-1♠ - (5♣). The selection was 6♠ and this went one down. Paul I think his pass is fine, he should just not pass a reopening X. Bidding 2S with that many hearts is asking for trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Double. Some very good players subscribe to the theory that one should not double with a void. Although it would be nice to have one to shoot through declarer at some point, my philosophy is: 'The fewer I have, the more partner has if he passes.' Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Please not the 'don't double with a void' discussion again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Although it would be nice to have one to shoot through declarer at some point, my philosophy is: 'The fewer I have, the more partner has if he passes.' I think it's more: "The fewer I have, the more likely is opps have that extra card I should have because there's 2 of them and only 1 partner!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Please not the 'don't double with a void' discussion again. And I also make the obvious reopening X ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Last time I didn't reopen with a double holding shortness, I held: ♠ AJ754♥ 3♦ AT9642♣ 2 Both vul, the auction began: 1♦ - (1♥) - P - (P); ? So I reopened with 1♠. Partner held ♠Q93 ♥ AQJ984 ♦ 75 ♣ A8 Note I still would reopen 1♠ if I had to do it over again and on the hand from the OP, I think it's a completely clear Double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Double. The void makes you think, but this hand looks good if partner passes the double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Last time I didn't reopen with a double holding shortness, I held: ♠ AJ754♥ 3♦ AT9642♣ 2 Both vul, the auction began: 1♦ - (1♥) - P - (P); ? So I reopened with 1♠. Partner held ♠Q93 ♥ AQJ984 ♦ 75 ♣ A8 Note I still would reopen 1♠ if I had to do it over again and on the hand from the OP, I think it's a completely clear Double. What's the problem? opps have 10 clubs and 4th player probably won't leave it at 1♥ X. Your 1♠ is totally fine. Even better would be to OPEN 1♠ :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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