Double Trouble

[MickyB]

[hv=d=w&s=sxhxxdjtxckqjt9xx]133|100|Scoring: IMP

(1♥)-X-(P)-3♣

(P)-3♠-(P)-4♣

(P)-4♥-(X)-??

 

Do you agree with your bidding so far?

 

What is 4♥?

 

What call do you make now?[/hv]

[whereagles]

>> Agree with bidding?

 

It's ok.

 

 

>> What is 4♥?

 

Some sort of club cue, I guess.

 

 

>> What now?

 

5♣. Got nothing but clubs, no diamond control, no help in spades.. what else but 5 now??

[MickyB]

Sorry, have just added the second double.

[pclayton]

3♣ is a good call since it doesn't give up on 3N. The hand is just a little too good for a direct 4♣.

 

I don't know what 4♥ is (Choice of Game Q? big hand in spades (unlikely), big raise of clubs (likely)), but I doubt it really matters since I'm bidding 5♣.

[Guest Jlall]

Agree with bidding, I'd just bid 5C now.

[Finch]

We were actually a bit good for 3C, I might have cued (and got into a horribly messy auction).

 

4H is a cue for clubs.

 

I'm not entirely sure what 3S was, when 3H was available, so it must be a very good suit

 

Give partner

 

AKJx

x

Axxx

Axxx

 

and slam is on the spade finesse.

 

I would like bid 4S as a cue, but I think the auction may go wrong. I would pass the double. I don't have a heart control, but I have too good a hand to bid 5C. If partner is interested in slam I definitely have extras, if he is looking at controls in every suit he'll know what to do.

[mikeh]

I like the auction so far, and agree that 4♥ was a cue... I'd bid 5♣ now.

[gnasher]

Whether 4♥ is a cue bid or a choice of games is mainly a question of philosophy, but anyone who plays it as a cue bid has the wrong philosophy. I bid 5♣.

 

I don't understand Frances's 4=1=4=4 example. Surely that hand would have bid 3♥?

[neilkaz]

Bidding looks fine to me. I have no aces and no interest in ♠ so I'll just bid 5♣ and hope PD's doesn't get overly excited.

 

Note that I could pass the X of 4♥ and then pull 4♠ to 5♣ or bid 4NT at some point, so PD should realize that from where I sit, I am not interested in slam unless he's really got the good and is control rich. I also could have XX'd 4♥ which to me shows first round control. Anyhow, I won't let us be misslead by the likely silly double of 4♥ and am happy that East didn't muddy the waters earlier with a preemptive raise in ♥.

 

5♣

[effervesce]

I would like bid 4S as a cue, but I think the auction may go wrong. I would pass the double. I don't have a heart control, but I have too good a hand to bid 5C. If partner is interested in slam I definitely have extras, if he is looking at controls in every suit he'll know what to do.

I don't like cueing shortage in partner's suits anyway. 4♠ should show a spade honor if it was a cue. In this auction a 4♠ bid would seem to be an offer to play there in any case, so 5♣ looks clearcut.

[bergen]

I would like bid 5♣ instead of 4♣.

it describes the hand clearly, long and good club suit , short spade.

[andy_h]

5C now.