gwnn Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=e&n=sjxhaqj8543dckj65&s=satxxhtxdxcaqxxxx]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] 1♣-(1♠)-2♥-(3♦)p-(5♦)-5♥-(6♦)X-end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 The blame for what? Missing a slam that's on a finesse (or a favorable lead, I suppose)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 6DX is par? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 How is this par? If they lead either a diamond or a stiff club you are cold and if they lead a spade and that's a stiff you're cold and if spades are 5-2 you're on a finesse through the overcaller. Minus some chance that they lightner X you and get a club ruff when the HK is off. Anyways, maybe I'm resulting early in the morning but I really dislike south's double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 I think the slam is slightly better than 50%. And I think South is to blame, for he suffers from that problem of people who open light hands and then are afraid to bid them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Slightly more than 50 %?! I think you guys are nuts, it seems more like 90 %. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 I'm thinking about the possible club ruff. I'm up for the slam anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Slam is likely to make, and there is even a remote possibility that 6♦ will make (hearts 4-0 and clubs 3-0 [EDIT], with spade KQ behind the ace). South was very timid. There is a basic principle at IMP play - on a distributional hand, bid one more. South decided to take the sure plus, even though that plus rated to be entirely inadequate. Even if he is +100 or +300, that will not compensate for a missed vul game or slam. 100% of the blame to South. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Clubs 3-0, you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Clubs 3-0, you mean. Yes. Clubs 3-0 - post edited. However, Clubs 2-0 would be sufficient if no one noticed that we were missing a club. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Not crazy about South's double. It's conceivable North will bid a 3rd time over a pass at these colors. A fit jump by North would be weird with a 7-4, but it works wonders here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill1157 Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 North is at fault, he should jump shift at his first turn. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 South has 2 Aces with a ♣ suit full of holes. North did not show ♣ support and just his 6♥'s.How should South not double 6♦? Did North bidding promise 10 tricks? Because South can only assume he (South) is contributing 2.Why should he sacrifice if opps contract won't make, as far as he knows?So he sends the message: "opps contract won't make" to North so that he does not sacrifice either.North is the only one who might see that a slam might make, and it is far from obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokup Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 i have a complaint. this whole mindset about "assigning blame/fault/etc" is wrong. it's unhealthy. "sry, p" should be illegal on BBO and tables everywhere.- and what's more, people who expect/demand it should be run through with a sword... no, wait a minute, now i'm contradicting myself... sure, there is a lot of utility in trying to find out how best to squeeze more information into a signal than it has capacity to take, but if you muck it up, no-one has the Right to find you "at fault". if you too have a complaint, including a complaint about my complaint, click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 i have a complaint. this whole mindset about "assigning blame/fault/etc" is wrong. it's unhealthy. "sry, p" should be illegal on BBO and tables everywhere.- and what's more, people who expect/demand it should be run through with a sword... no, wait a minute, now i'm contradicting myself... sure, there is a lot of utility in trying to find out how best to squeeze more information into a signal than it has capacity to take, but if you muck it up, no-one has the Right to find you "at fault". if you too have a complaint, including a complaint about my complaint, click here If you are looking to actually assign blame after your post, then you are right. If you are looking for an evaluation of your auction and the bidding by both sides, then "assign the blame"s can be very helpful, as the forum members are usually very active in saying what they like and don't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Doubling 6D is terrible. Tx is great support when partner is able to bid 5H all by himself. With a so-so hand partner would probably blasted rightaway to 4H so he has the goodies when he bid 2H followed by 5H. The 2 black aces and a possible running suit are more then enough to make a forcing pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Doubling 6D is terrible. Tx is great support when partner is able to bid 5H all by himself. With a so-so hand partner would probably blasted rightaway to 4H so he has the goodies when he bid 2H followed by 5H. The 2 black aces and a possible running suit are more then enough to make a forcing pass. Not only did partner bid to 5H himself, we also didn't support him from 2H to 3H... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacCashm Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I dislike South's pass over _3_♦.I would bid 3♠ at my second turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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