Fluffy Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=s87hakj4dqjcaj842]133|100|Scoring: MPS - W - N - E1♣-1♥-1♠-ps??[/hv] 1♠ = 5+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Sorry for being predictable but .... I would have opened 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Sorry for being predictable but .... I would have opened 1NT. My preference would be for a 1♥ opening bid. As it is, I'll rebid 2♣ and await developments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 2NT. Partner usually won't have a crap minimum for a free bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 1NT the first time. If I open 1♣ and partner bids 1♠, a very predictable sequence, I have a rebid problem. (The 1♥ overcall was irrelevant to that problem.) I knew that. So, I open 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 LOL, just open 1N I mean wtp. Is it really so unexpected that partner bids spades and you have nothing close to a reasonable bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Agree with opening 1NT instead of 1♣... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 If you can't stand 1♣ just think you have 1 spade and 3 diamonds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 If you can't stand 1♣ just think you have 1 spade and 3 diamonds I would bid 2C since 1N and 2N are both too off even though I hate to bid 2C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 I would have opened 1NT the first time to avoid this common problem. Now I am stuck, but 2NT is too much of an overbid, so I'll be cautious with 2♣ catering to the fact that PD may have nothing more more of value in his hand than Axxxx in ♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 If you can't stand 1♣ just think you have 1 spade and 3 diamonds Interesting. ♠x ♥AKJx ♦QJx ♣AJxxx I have on occasion bid this hand by opening 1♦ and then rebidding 2♣, planning to covert a courtesy correction (2♦) to 2♥. My heart wants to do that. As it is, I suppose 1♣...2♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 I'll go with 2♣. An underbid, but 2NT would be an overbid by your standards and I really don't think a cue would show LESS than a game force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 1N is a no-brainer even for a Cro-Magnon like me. I'd 2N this now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 I would have opened 1Nt but now i rebid 2S. I think 2S is safer then 2C. If the bidding goes on i might be able to reach 3Nt and if the bidding stop im happy to be in 2S instead of 3Nt or 2C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Maybe a fake 2 Diamond is nice. If pd has enough diamonds to raise this, he will have even more spades, so we can play 4 Spade or still reach 3 NT. If he does not have a diamond fit, we will reach NT Spades or clubs without too big problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Interesting. ♠x ♥AKJx ♦QJx ♣AJxxx I have on occasion bid this hand by opening 1♦ and then rebidding 2♣, planning to covert a courtesy correction (2♦) to 2♥. My heart wants to do that. As it is, I suppose 1♣...2♣. So you show your 1=4=3=5 as a 1=3=5=4? At least they are permutations of each other... :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 I think if you don't open 1NT you deserve even worse than this. And this is bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Interesting. ♠x ♥AKJx ♦QJx ♣AJxxx I have on occasion bid this hand by opening 1♦ and then rebidding 2♣, planning to covert a courtesy correction (2♦) to 2♥. My heart wants to do that. As it is, I suppose 1♣...2♣. So you show your 1=4=3=5 as a 1=3=5=4? At least they are permutations of each other... :blink: Not exactly. I show a 1435 as a 1345 with partners that open 1♦ with that holding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Not exactly. I show a 1435 as a 1345 with partners that open 1♦ with that holding. Presumably then it can be a 1345, 1354, 1444, 0454 or 0445? Certainly in standard, the auction would show a 1354, 1444, or 0454. You've just added another hand type partner has to be aware of then. Funnily enough, in precision you've got to decide how to show a 1435. For us it would be 1D then 2C over 1S showing longer clubs (1NT would show both minors), but I could be a 3-5, 4-5, or 4-6 even with bad clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Not exactly. I show a 1435 as a 1345 with partners that open 1♦ with that holding. Presumably then it can be a 1345, 1354, 1444, 0454 or 0445? Certainly in standard, the auction would show a 1354, 1444, or 0454. You've just added another hand type partner has to be aware of then. Funnily enough, in precision you've got to decide how to show a 1435. For us it would be 1D then 2C over 1S showing longer clubs (1NT would show both minors), but I could be a 3-5, 4-5, or 4-6 even with bad clubs. Exactly. I said that is where my heart is. I'm an old canape player. Hence, this appeals to me. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Fluffy why don't you bid 1NT for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilgan Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Topic is a bit misleading as the answer is very very easy: Open 1 NT. Sort of like holding a 12 hcp hand that is 5-5 in the majors and opening a heart, and then being surprised when you have rebid issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 After taking over for whoever sat in this chair last round, I rebid 2♣. No rebid can correct my previous mistake, but I think this is the least of evils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 2C. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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