Simple question

[Fluffy]

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W - N - E - S

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[effervesce]

X looks normal. 3NT is a good alternative bid.

[kenrexford]

3NT for me.

[Guest Jlall]

3 suited hand: check.

Short spades: check.

enough values to bid: check.

 

I don't understand why this is not a textbook X.

[Free]

textbook Dbl wtp :P

[jdonn]

Sorry I'm going to say it. 3NT is idiotic.

[neilkaz]

3 suited hand: check.

Short spades: check.

enough values to bid: check.

 

I don't understand why this is not a textbook X.

check !

[kenrexford]

3NT is clearly idiotic.

 

But, I bid it anyway. It always makes. It never should. But, it does.

[pclayton]

To the 3N bidders (or 4N):

 

You might get a spade lead and win your dry King. How clever of you. If pard fits either of these minors and gives you a source of tricks for NT, you probably have 6 of a minor.

 

If RHO leads an off-suit which he should anyway, you have to work pretty hard for 9 tricks.

[kenrexford]

Heck. I bid 3NT with almost the exact same hand once with a small stiff in spades. I had only eight tricks off the top and had to give up a trick in a side suit to LHO late in the hand to establish the ninth trick, which worked. They still did not lead spades.

[jtfanclub]

Heck. I bid 3NT with almost the exact same hand once with a small stiff in spades. I had only eight tricks off the top and had to give up a trick in a side suit to LHO late in the hand to establish the ninth trick, which worked. They still did not lead spades.

Maybe you were playing one of the 99.9% (or just 99%) weak pairs on BBO at the time.

[benlessard]

X of course.

 

 

I think that a 3Nt bid with confidence is as good as a X. However i dont usually use the bag of tricks when i have a perfect bid available. Also when i have 2 close decisions that i believe to be equals i tend to follow the field unless im in a very big events.

[Fluffy]

Good guess Phil, indeed 6m was better than 3NT. But 4♥ was the worst of all.

 

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[Guest Jlall]

Isn't 4H just cold? edit: nm forgot it was MP ok.

[kenrexford]

Not exactly accurate.

 

The claim was the "6m" is better than 3NT. 6♣ has problems after spade Ace, spade Queen, a likely defense.. :P

 

True, that same defense will also beat 3NT, to death. But, it will not happen.

 

Plus, I doubt that 6♦ is reached after a double.

 

So, I think the idiot bid actually wins. B)

[benlessard]

Good guess Phil, indeed 6m was better than 3NT.

 

Saying that 6m is better or might be better then 3Nt is a bit pointless. I have 21 points in my hand so im not expecting partner to be strong enough to make a slam try or to leap to 5m. So in practical term there is no road that lead to 6m.