Passed hand -- bid game?

[dbsboy]

[hv=s=sxhqjxxdajxxcqjxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

You pass on the first seat, agree with the pass?

 

Your partner opens 1♦, you respond 1♥

and he raises to 2♥.

 

What will you do now?

 

 

I'm not too sure. I just want to settle a bet.

[Free]

2♠ relay

[mcphee]

If I have some form of asking bid to discover if partner holds 3 or 4 trumps for the raise, I would use that. If not I like a simple 3D to see what happens next.

 

Yes I agree with passing this hand in first. If I held 4S and short H I might reconsider.

[andy_h]

Agree with the pass and now I hope I have 2S as an asking bid to see what type of 2H raise partner did. If partner will never raise me with 3card support then I bid game.

[655321]

I don't object to the initial pass.

 

Like other posters, I will bid 4♥ opposite a 4 card raise. With no methods, I probably bid 4♥ anyway - partner could have passed 1♥ with 3 card support in a very minimum hand.

[the hog]

Either 2S if that is an ask, else 3D. Not an immediate butcher's bid of 4H.

[Codo]

How do I invite?

With short suit trial bids? 2 Spade

With a relay to ask the shape? (4 or 3 card raise) Use it

With long suit trial bids? 3 Club

With 3 Heart? Oh well, okay

I am Gromov, I always blast to game? Okay 4 Heart then, but only then.

[skjaeran]

I'd have opened 1♣.

 

What I rebid now depends upon agreements.

 

Playing some kind of asking relay, that's my bid.

Failing that I just make a natural NF bid of 3♦, showing exactly 4c♥.

With some I play short suit game tries. But I prefer 5c trump for that - partner might often have raised on 3.

[skjaeran]

Dbl post.

[cjames]

I would have opened, at the first look I probably would open 1♦, I would dislike rebidding 1NT over partners 1♠ response, but 1♦-1♠-2♣ is not a thing of beauty either, and that also sounds like 9 card in minors either way, so I guess I would end up opening 1♣ and just have to make myself rebidding 1NT if partner should bid spades. (and after all I do have some stoppers in all of the other suits)

 

I would do as the other posters now, use a relay if I have that available, or short suit/long suit trial.

[mike777]

[hv=s=sxhqjxxdajxxcqjxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

You pass on the first seat, agree with the pass?

 

Your partner opens 1♦, you respond 1♥

and he raises to 2♥.

 

What will you do now?

 

 

I'm not too sure. I just want to settle a bet.

3d

 

no problem yet.

 

If partner rebids 3h I rebid 4H.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

invite, although given your diamonds bidding game

is not the worst crime, and I may bid 4H instead of

3H tommorow.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[bill1157]

[hv=s=sxhqjxxdajxxcqjxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

You pass on the first seat, agree with the pass?

 

Your partner opens 1♦, you respond 1♥

and he raises to 2♥.

 

What will you do now?

 

 

I'm not too sure. I just want to settle a bet.

I think at IMPs you should definitely bid game. Partner shows a full opener by raising hearts , you have a double fit...

 

Bill

 

Also, I would open the hand most of the time.

[ArtK78]

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You pass on the first seat, agree with the pass?

 

Your partner opens 1♦, you respond 1♥

and he raises to 2♥.

 

What will you do now?

 

 

I'm not too sure. I just want to settle a bet.

I think at IMPs you should definitely bid game. Partner shows a full opener by raising hearts , you have a double fit...

 

Bill

 

Also, I would open the hand most of the time.

Bid game in what strain? Hearts? Are you sure that partner has 4 hearts for his raise?

 

Also, even if your partner has 4 hearts, your "double fit" may be marginal. Partner opened 1♦, but he doesn't need much of a diamond suit to do that. In the extreme case, he could have xxx.

[mike777]

We are not sure yet if opener has 4 hearts. I think blasting to 4H over 2h is a bit much.

[kenrexford]

I'll invite game by bidding 4♥. I'm not concerned about a 4-3 heart fit. Partner will not have three hearts for this auction.

[dbsboy]

Actually, partner does have 4 Card ♥.

 

Lets say you make a game try, i.e. 3♦.

 

Partner bids 3♥, showing 4 cards but declining the game try.

 

Still bid game? I will later show his hand

[mike777]

Actually, partner does have 4 Card ♥.

 

Lets say you make a game try, i.e. 3♦.

 

Partner bids 3♥, showing 4 cards but declining the game try.

 

Still bid game? I will later show his hand

yes as I said I still rebid 4h at imps. btw I think passing is fine in first seat if you and your partner agree that.

[Codo]

If I invite and he declies, why should I bid game?

 

I may force to game with this hand if pd promised 4 Hearts, but if I judged to invite, I would respect his descission.

[mike777]

If I invite and he declies, why should I bid game?

 

I may force to game with this hand if pd promised 4 Hearts, but if I judged to invite, I would respect his descission.

you are making a slam try not invite..does that help?

 

lets back up

3d and then 3h and then 4h =slam not game try by passed hand.

 

if you play r/s you got to get used to making slam tries by passed hand

[bill1157]

Bid game in what strain? Hearts? Are you sure that partner has 4 hearts for his raise?

 

Also, even if your partner has 4 hearts, your "double fit" may be marginal. Partner opened 1♦, but he doesn't need much of a diamond suit to do that. In the extreme case, he could have xxx.

Yes obviously in hearts