paulg Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Does anyone have a simple suggested defence to Magic Diamond, specifically the 1♣ opener that shows any 12-16 unbalanced hand or 15-17 balanced? Thanks Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I don't have one myself, but I have contacted Sven-Olov 'Tjolpe' Flodqvist and Lars Andersson who devised the system with Hans Göthe. It's not at all certain that they want to reveal a defence against their own opening bids, but it's worth a try. I will keep you posted as and when I get a reply. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 That was quick! I already got a reply from 'Tjolpe'. It's all in Swedish, but here is an English translation: Against1♣: Your defence against a Precision 1♦, alternatively against strong club.1♦: Your defence against strong club.1M: Natural openings.2m: Natural openings.2M: Dbl is take-out of the suit 'bid', or any powerhouse. With a take-out of the other major, pass for now. All overcalls, even in the 'opening suit', are natural. ... 'Tjolpe' who used to live in Stockholm for decades has now moved to the county of Skåne in southern Sweden. 'No one plays Magic here' :) , he writes. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 I used to play the following after 1♣ (now nobody plays magic ♦ over here):Dbl = 15+ any (power double)1♦ = 5+♥1♥ = 5+♠1♠ = one minor or both Majors (at least 4-4)1NT = both minors (at least 4-4)2m = 4+m and an unknown 4 card M2M = natural weakOvercalls from 1♦ to 2m are constructive (usually 10-14HCP) with values in the suits. This works ok, and you can have nice followups. Also you don't have to worry about cuebids and stuff like that. Dunno about the legallity in your country... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 The main point of defending against Magic ♦ is that when you overcall, you don't have a cuebid. My rule is: The cuebid after a 1-level overcall is 2♣ until they bid a suit. If they Dbl our 1M overcall, the major responder is supposed to have (i.e. the other one) is the cuebid. Example: (1♣) 1♥ (Dbl negative) 1♠ = Cuebid Also if you are a Raptor NT fan, don't play that after the Magic ♦ 1M openings! After the light opening, a natural 1NT opening is tougher to double, and the likelyhood of a game on our side is much higher than when defending "standard". OTOH, 1NT after the 1♣-opening as natural is not that useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASkolnick Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I play something very similar to Free against any split range club. 1C-x Str hand 1D Hearts Constructive 1H Spades Constructive 1S Clubs Constructive 1N and Up start Suction Hands. (1N 2 untouching) 2C (D Constructive or H&S) Over 1C-x-P- 1D 4 hearts (any strength) 1H 4 spades (any strength) 1S Relay to 1NT With Clubs, you can pass the double. 1N 5 card Diamonds 2C 6 Card Diamonds 2D 5+ Hearts (any strength) 2H 5+ Spades (any strength) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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