After an overcall

[pclayton]

All Vul IMPs, short matches

 

♠KQ ♥75 ♦T632 ♣KT732

 

1♥ on left, 1♠ pard, pass on right.

 

Your call?

[cjames]

Hmm, hard one. 1N is kinda tempting hoping for some rebid by pard. Partners ATxxx, or Axxxx, or even weaker spade suit suggests some points outside that suit, and since RHO did not make any 1N, 2♥, 2♦ bid or a neg dbl bid I think partner actually has some points. I think I would end up bidding 2♣ here, seems to fit my hand quite well, and would probably bid the same in a longer match as well.

[jdonn]

2♣, even though I expect 2♠ would on average be a better contract. The two reasons are much of the time 2♠ is better partner won't pass 2♣, and that raising on a doubleton convinces partner to overcompete too often in my experience so I pretty much don't do it.

[jtfanclub]

2♠. Partner knows me, right? He won't be suprised by this dummy.

 

Upgrade the ten of clubs to the jack, and I'd bid 2♣. It's that close.

 

EDIT: There's got to be a disclosure issue here, but I haven't figure out how to solve it. I frequently raise with an honor doubleton in competitive auctions with 7-9 hcp and some shape. My partners know that, my opponents don't. But I've asked around, and I've been told that this is not an alert. I'm sure this is a huge advantage to us, but I'm not sure how to resolve it. Or if it needs resolving.

[Apollo81]

2♠, my spade support looks like 3, and i have short hearts too so I dont mind too much if pard is say 6-2 majors and bids 3 over 3

[Guest Jlall]

2S, just seems less silly than the other 3 alternatives.

[mike777]

I will try pass, I think partner has a real opener but he failed to make a forcing bid.

I can live with 2c or 2s.

[mikeh]

pass

 

close, and we may miss a vulnerable game. But going down in a game or a too-high partial risks losing 6 imps, so it is not as if (over)bidding is safe.

 

I think most play that 2♣ is F1... so we are not going to be in 2♣ on a poor 5-2 fit, but so what?

 

Partner will be minimum far more often than he has the values for any game. Or he may be medium, and play you for a better hand.... an extra trump if we raise spades and a source of tricks plus more hcp if we bid a forcing 2♣. As for 1N.... please don't mention that in front of the children. This is NOT one of those modern sequences in which 1N doesn't show a stopper.... and even if it were, one would need to be hyper-modern to do it on xx.

 

BTW, if we pass, it has to be in tempo... both to maximize the odds of LHO reopening and to avoid ethical problems if partner wants to make a non-pass call over that reopening.

[Guest Jlall]

I think most play that 2♣ is F1...

It was specified that 2C=NF

[Fluffy]

I'd go with 2♣, pass is not in my book, and I really dislike my doubleon heart with only honnors in spades.

[655321]

2♣

[mikeh]

I think most play that 2♣ is F1...

It was specified that 2C=NF

one of the hazards of posting while eating a sandwich, reading emails and checking voice mails is a very, very short attention span/memory.

 

However, playing 2♣ as NF makes it even worse as an option.... partner will now pass you with many hands with a stiff club and will certainly pass with all non-maximums with 2 clubs, and that will probably be a poor contract.

 

2♠ is the only palatable bid, but I still (even more so) pass

[jdonn]

EDIT: There's got to be a disclosure issue here, but I haven't figure out how to solve it. I frequently raise with an honor doubleton in competitive auctions with 7-9 hcp and some shape. My partners know that, my opponents don't. But I've asked around, and I've been told that this is not an alert. I'm sure this is a huge advantage to us, but I'm not sure how to resolve it. Or if it needs resolving.

If you want to resolve it, alert anyway. No one will fault you even if they think it's technically not alertable.

[Winstonm]

See my previous 4000 posts....

 

Although, I admit, this one is not a WTP? hand.

Gun to my head? 2S. No bullets in gun? Pass.

[the hog]

Pass. 2C if nf suggests a much better C suit. 2S on a doubleton, even if KQ is not my cup of tea.

[andy_h]

feel i have to do something, so 2S it is.

[brianshark]

I'm a passer. I would like to say something but we may end up playing in 2♣ which I won't like. And I don't raise without 3 card support.

[gwnn]

pass, apologize to pd later after the +230

[whereagles]

I'll try 1NT. Stoppers or lack thereof never deterred me from BWITICM.

[pclayton]

My pard passed this hand and I wasn't too crazy about the decison. I held A9xxx KJ8x AQ Jx. Do you want to be in 3N here? Its pretty close and if you keep your wits it rolls - RHO has one club honor - spades are 4-2.

 

Opponents in 3N drove out the spade 1st. So we won 6.

 

Personally I like 2C a little better although it could be a silly contract. 2S is ok but I hate ruffing hearts with my KQ.

 

I think you need to do something.

[Winstonm]

My pard passed this hand and I wasn't too crazy about the decison. I held A9xxx KJ8x AQ Jx. Do you want to be in 3N here? Its pretty close and if you keep your wits it rolls - RHO has one club honor - spades are 4-2.

 

Opponents in 3N drove out the spade 1st. So we won 6.

 

Personally I like 2C a little better although it could be a silly contract. 2S is ok but I hate ruffing hearts with my KQ.

 

I think you need to do something.

You could have overcalled 1N, too.

 

One of them hands, pal, where both had a chance and didn't do it.

 

Next board.

 

Of course, had you been playing my Schritzenfuber all-purpose t.o. doubles, a double here of 1H shows 5 bad spades, hearts double-stopped, and a 5422 pattern with 15-17. What? I thought system was ALWAYS the answer in these threads.

[han]

I held A9xxx KJ8x AQ Jx.

You could have overcalled 1N, too.

That would be a really dumb bid imo.

[Halo]

Pass

 

Seems to describe my hand. If partner overcalls a spade on a twenty count, I would do something different.