Free Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Playing 2/1 GF, what is expert standard when the auction goes 1♠-2♥-? I'm also interested in continuations when 2♠ is any minimum hand for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 2S- If it has a 5 card suit it is any minimum without 3+H, if it has a 6 card suit it's unlimited. if it is a 6 card suit it is unlimited. 2N- Doesn't promise extras, but shows good stoppers. 3m- Extras, if only 5-4 then significant extras. 3H- Most hands with 3+H. 3S- Solid suit, sets trumps, requests cuebid. 3N- No expert standard as far as I know, I prefer it to be about 17-18 with 5233. If you don't open 1N with 15-16 and 5M you can use it to show that hand type. 4m- splinter, 4 trumps and shortness, doesn't promise anything extra. There are obviously lots of possible variations of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Playing 2/1 GF, what is expert standard when the auction goes 1♠-2♥-? I'm also interested in continuations when 2♠ is any minimum hand for example. I happen to play 2♠ as showing any min. In that case you have: 1♠ 2♥2♠ = any min, including hands with heart support that cannot picture bid (see below). Now 2NT by responder is semi-artificial, slammish and asks for clarification. This is the chance for opener to show his min heart support.2NT = 15-17. If you open 1NT on 5-card majors, you can define it as 15-17 with a 6-card broken suit.3m = 15-20, natural 5-4, extras.3♥ = as above: 3 card support, 15-20. Could be less than 15 with compensating shape, of course.3♠ = 15-17, 6 card suit. If the above 2NT was a 6 card broken suit, this 3♠ is will be a good suit. Bids by responder now are natural, with 4NT = RKCB♠, and 5m = good extras, ace/void, spade fit.3NT = balanced 18-19.4m = no meaning for me, but you can play it as a fragment (3+ cards) and 18-20 hcp, 6-card spade suit. Resp now bids 4NT natural, signoff.4♥ = picture bid. Min hand, heart support, almost all the hcps in the majors.4♠ = drop dead. This is not the expert standard, but is, of course, much better :P :) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted May 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Anything special after 1♠-2♥-2♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Anything special after 1♠-2♥-2♠? Check mine as well. Some edits done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Anything special after 1♠-2♥-2♠? No, responder will usually bid 2N unless some very good reason not to. Opener patterns out, with a 3H bid often being Hx in case partner has 6 hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcvetkov Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 2S- If it has a 5 card suit it is any minimum without 3+H, if it has a 6 card suit it's unlimited. if it is a 6 card suit it is unlimited. 2N- Doesn't promise extras, but shows good stoppers. 3m- Extras, if only 5-4 then significant extras. 3H- Most hands with 3+H. 3S- Solid suit, sets trumps, requests cuebid. 3N- No expert standard as far as I know, I prefer it to be about 17-18 with 5233. If you don't open 1N with 15-16 and 5M you can use it to show that hand type. 4m- splinter, 4 trumps and shortness, doesn't promise anything extra. There are obviously lots of possible variations of this. Agree with this, it is what is pretty much standard 2/1 with one note. 2NT as opener can show two type of hands, balanced 12-14 or balanced 18-19 usually with less then 3 hearts. Opener bids 4NT at his second turn to show the hand #2 ( its not Blackwood). I have not seen this very often, but that what it is Mike Lawrence 2/1. 3Nt at second turn, should show 15-17 (18), balanced, that hand you dislike to open 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I don't know how standard it is, but I'm quite sure I don't like to raise directly with xxx, I'll rebid something else (usually 2♠) then insist on hearts later. It helps to stop partner from pushing to the 5 level with inadequate trumps, and I have seen several times that this proved useful. Otherwise agree with everything Jlall said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Playing 2/1 GF, what is expert standard when the auction goes 1♠-2♥-? I'm also interested in continuations when 2♠ is any minimum hand for example. You seem to be asking both for what is standard, and what people actually play. Justin (jlall) has explained the former, I'll tell you how what I do in the latter: 1♠ - 2♥ - 2♠ any hand that doesn't make one of the other bids2NT any hand with 6 spades (but not four hearts and not three hearts that obviously wants to play in hearts)3♣/3♦ - usually 5-5, not sub-minimum (i.e. about 12+ HCP)3♥ - usually 3-card support or 5422, might be lurking on a hand too good to splinter or with singleton A3♠ - very good suit, sets trumps, some extra high card values3NT - 5233 15-17 unsuitable for slam (we don't open 1NT on these hands)4♣/4♦ = splinter, 4-card heart support4♥ = minimum 5422 very few controls4♠ - doesn't really exist, but shows long spades and minimum HCP - just a bit stronger than a 4S opening4NT = RKCB in heartshigher = non-existent (5m would probably be interpreted as exclusion, even though we don't really play exclusion usually) After 1♠ - 2♥ - 2♠2NT = further relay, opener bids natural (3C = clubs, 3D = diamonds, 3H = Hx or three poor hearts, 3S = 5233 that does not want to bid 3NT, 3NT = 5233 minimum, 4C+ undefined)3♣/3♦ = natural, 5/5 or 6/5 3♥ = very good suit, sets trumps3♠ = sets trumps4m = splinter for spades with interest in partner's heart holding (no J2NT)4♥ = contract suggestion4♠ = 4=5=2=2 with no minor suit controls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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