Finch Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 I think this is a bit of a textbook hand which team-mate got right and opponents got wrong. However the BBO forum crowd will find all the nuances I have missed [hv=d=e&v=b&n=s72hj109daj73ckq72&s=sk3hk7432dk2ca963]133|200|Scoring: IMP1♠ x 3♠ xP 4♥ P P P[/hv] LHO leads the 6 of spades (3rd & 5th) to RHO's AceRHO returns the 10 of clubs Plan the play Bonus question: what would you have done on the South cards over the 1S opening? Edit: Fixed auction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 I opened 1 spade with the South hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 I opened 1 spade with the South hand? presumably it went (1♠)-X-(3♠)-X-(p)-4♥ all pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 (edited) I'd win in dummy and play a heart to the king, catering for RHO to have a singleton club and ♥Axx. That also works against any 3-2 break except when:- East has ♥Qxx and a singleton club- East has ♥Qx and three clubs (must remember that one)- Both hearts are offside, in which case we were stuffed anyway. It doesn't work if RHO has ♥AQ8x. Am I missing something? I'd have avoided this problem by passing throughout. Edited May 6, 2008 by gnasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 >Bonus question: what would you have done on the South cards over the 1S opening? I think I'd pass. The heart suit is bad, and DBL p 2♦ is not what I'd like to hear.You have a nice defensive hand over the opening bidder. Win the club in Dummy, lead a heart tp the King, continue hearts.This way I can duck a club and East ruffs air. If you win in hand, then the club return by west must be covered and a Q or K is ruffed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 It seems like if we take the line above (win in dummy, heart to the K), they don't have to continue clubs. If they're 4-1 as it seems, we're left with the D hook or squeeze, neither of which is very likely to work. If righty is not the creative sort, I think we have to win the club in hand, cross to the DA, and then play a heart to the K. Run the C9 eventually, and pay off to the falsecard from JT(x)(x). I think one should do this even against a thinking player though. If east knew you had 5 hearts, then with JTx of clubs, he'd probably know you're cold, and may well try something bizarre. But since it sounds like you have 4 hearts on the auction, I think normal defense for east would be to play another spade, hoping to tap one of the hands and create another trump winner. I like the double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I'd win in dummy and play a heart to the king, catering for RHO to have a singleton club and ♥Axx. That also works against any 3-2 break except when:- East has ♥Qxx and a singleton club- East has ♥Qx and three clubs (must remember that one)- Both hearts are offside, in which case we were stuffed anyway. It doesn't work if RHO has ♥AQ8x. Am I missing something? I'd have avoided this problem by passing throughout. What you're missing is that you have a club loser if you play this way. You have to win in hand and lead the ♣9 when it comes time to play clubs to avoid one. Anyway I would play RHO for A???? A?x ?xxx T, so I would win the ♣A, lead a diamond to dummy, and lead a low heart to the king and a second heart from hand. Later I am planning to run the ♣9 if I lose two heart tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnszsun Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 If ♣10 is a real card, we surely want to win it in hand, go to dummy with ♦A, and play ♥ to K. Otherwise, how do we handle west's ♣J8xx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 (edited) OK, I woke up this morning realising what I'd missed. To avoid a club loser, I could:(1) Win in hand, play a diamond to dummy, lead a heart to the king, and later finesse twice in clubs if it seems sensible. I might have to decide about that quite early - if West wins ♥Q he will play a club immediately.(2) Win in dummy, play a heart to the king and another heart. If East started with ♥Ax he'll be endplayed.(3) Win in dummy, play a heart to the king, three rounds of diamonds, and another heart. If West started with ♥Qx and four clubs he'll be endplayed. Line (3) loses to East's Axxxx Ax Qxxxx 10, but avoids the ignominy of going down when East started with ♣J10. I'd do that. Edit: Forgot to mention that in lines (2) and (3) I'd cash ♠K after winning ♥K. Edited May 7, 2008 by gnasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I'd win in dummy and play a heart to the king, catering for RHO to have a singleton club and ♥Axx. That also works against any 3-2 break except when:- East has ♥Qxx and a singleton club- East has ♥Qx and three clubs (must remember that one)- Both hearts are offside, in which case we were stuffed anyway. It doesn't work if RHO has ♥AQ8x. Am I missing something? I'd have avoided this problem by passing throughout. What you're missing is that you have a club loser if you play this way. You have to win in hand and lead the ♣9 when it comes time to play clubs to avoid one. Anyway I would play RHO for A???? A?x ?xxx T, so I would win the ♣A, lead a diamond to dummy, and lead a low heart to the king and a second heart from hand. Later I am planning to run the ♣9 if I lose two heart tricks. This seems right too. I think we all are going down with AQ8x onside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I would rate the chances of RHO having a stiff club ten as very close to 100 % and play accordingly. Really really like souths X, good bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Bidding was ace. The line of ♣A, ♦A, ♥ to K seems fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Taking Noble's line here for reasons he gave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I'd win in dummy and play a heart to the king, catering for RHO to have a singleton club and ♥Axx. That also works against any 3-2 break except when:- East has ♥Qxx and a singleton club- East has ♥Qx and three clubs (must remember that one)- Both hearts are offside, in which case we were stuffed anyway. It doesn't work if RHO has ♥AQ8x. Am I missing something? I'd have avoided this problem by passing throughout. What you're missing is that you have a club loser if you play this way. You have to win in hand and lead the ♣9 when it comes time to play clubs to avoid one. Anyway I would play RHO for A???? A?x ?xxx T, so I would win the ♣A, lead a diamond to dummy, and lead a low heart to the king and a second heart from hand. Later I am planning to run the ♣9 if I lose two heart tricks. Yes, this is the layout (RHO has AJ10xx Axx Qxxx 10). gnasher's line (3) also works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 gnasher's line (3) also works. Yes, but it was still rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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