BBOFlash Comments Thread3

[fred]

Is the timeout set the same so that prolonged inactivity auto logs you off the server after the same interval as it does in BBOWin?

BBOFlash timeouts are currently disabled. They rate to be enabled within the next few days.

 

To answer your other question, our first official release will not contain the ability to follow a tourney player as a kibitzer. This is something I expect we will implement in the future.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

[1eyedjack]

To answer your other question, our first official release will not contain the ability to follow a tourney player as a kibitzer. This is something I expect we will implement in the future.

Outstanding, Fred.

 

Will the results pane then show the results of the person that you are following, rather than the history of the results at the table that you have just joined following a round change? I can see that this might be problematic if during the course of the tournament the kibitzer changes the identity of the player to be followed. The most desirable solution would be to see, at a given instant, a history of results throughout the tournament of the particular individual being followed at that instant. But I can understand that could be a programming nightmare.

[geppe]

Today I have played a pair of Team Matches with BBO Flash.

I have found the interface, usability good.

Two very little things:

- I haven't found the possibility to chat to "Tournament", as I was used with the "older" client

- When I use accented wovels in the team names (a normal situation in Italy, France and other countries...) these letters doesn't appear.

 

Thank you very much for your very good work!

 

geppe

[uday]

teaching tables are in our future, just not in this initial release.

[ppek]

The BBOFlash is great, good job and good news for non-Win users. I am looking forward to see new features comming.

 

May be a stupid question, but I can't find it anywhere. What's the funcionality of the "Pin" button in user's profile?

 

Pavel

[uday]

By default, the profile windows fade away after some seconds of disuse.

 

You can make a specific profile window stick around as long as you want by "pinning" it to the screen. i find this useful for holding conversations ( note the "private chat" button at the top of the profile window )

[barmar]

When I login to BBO Flash, Safari reports in the status bar "There was one error opening the page." When I open the Activity window to see the details, it shows an error trying to load http://bridgebase.bridgebase.com/crossdomain.xml, because the hostname bridgebase.bridgebase.com doesn't exist.

 

This doesn't cause any problems, but it's a cosmetic glitch that seems like it should be easy to fix.

[geppe]

Is there a way to use bboflash as viewer for lin files? or it is necessary to use the old windows bbo client?

thanks

 

geppe

[barmar]

Flash applications aren't allowed to access user files, it's a security feature.

[geller]

I haven't read the whole thread so my apologies if this has already been answered. What are the plans (if any) for adding language options other than English?

[fred]

I haven't read the whole thread so my apologies if this has already been answered.  What are the plans (if any) for adding language options other than English?

Here's the story:

 

After over a year of working on this thing, we have finally reached a milestone (yay!): if you go to www.bridgebase.com you will be steered toward BBOFlash instead of BBOWin. We did this rather quietly - it was what we call a "soft launch". Assuming everything continues to go smoothly we will likely start making a serious effort to publicize BBOFlash within the next few weeks.

 

In terms of what comes next for BBOFlash, we are not sure yet. Our management team is meeting at the ACBL Summer Nationals to decide that (among other things). I think it is safe to bet that we will continue to put a lot of resources into BBOFlash development, but I really cannot predict with confidence when any specific new feature or improvement rates to appear.

 

I expect making BBOFlash multilingual will be near the top of our priority list, but it would not surprise me in the least if we decide to push this off for several more months.

 

Unlike BBOWin, releasing new versions of BBOFlash is almost entirely painless. So some good news is that you won't have to wait several months between new versions like you did with BBOWin.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

[barmar]

I like to bookmark the login page so I don't have to go through a separate "Click here to play or watch" page, and I've had to update the bookmark every time you announced a new version (and sometimes when you didn't bother to announce it, like last week's v16). Once you release this for real, are you going to stick with a consistent URL that we can bookmark?

[fred]

I like to bookmark the login page so I don't have to go through a separate "Click here to play or watch" page, and I've had to update the bookmark every time you announced a new version (and sometimes when you didn't bother to announce it, like last week's v16). Once you release this for real, are you going to stick with a consistent URL that we can bookmark?

Only if we can figure out how to also guarantee that people will get the latest version when they visit that URL.

 

Our current inability to do this is making our lives harder too.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

[Mr. Dodgy]

Still some glitches with kibbing tourneys barometer display? Not, I suppose, a fatal flaw but peculiar:

 

http://users.tpg.com.au/adslhl2i//bboflashkibnew.jpg

 

note the odd % display (it's an IMP tourney; yeah the pic could be better) and partial display of results when I kib a table in a tournament i have just finished.

[han]

I've used BBO flash quite a bit this week and it has improved a lot! Some critique:

 

I miss partnership bidding.

 

When I scroll up to read old chat something happens. When I scroll back down I can't get it back into default position where it scrolls along when new text appears. I have to keep scrolling along which I think is not how it is supposed to be.

[barmar]

I think you have to make sure you scroll ALL the way to the bottom, then it will keep scrolling automatically. Otherwise, it assumes you want to read what you scrolled to, rather than having it keep jumping to the bottom whenever someone speaks. It does this even if you're short by a few pixels.

[Gerardo]

BBOWin also behaves this way.

[fred]

Still some glitches with kibbing tourneys barometer display? Not, I suppose, a fatal flaw but peculiar:

 

http://users.tpg.com.au/adslhl2i//bboflashkibnew.jpg

 

note the odd % display (it's an IMP tourney; yeah the pic could be better) and partial display of results when I kib a table in a tournament i have just finished.

I have not been able to replicate this bug, but I think it might be caused by a combination of new server and slightly out-of-date client.

 

There is a more recent client available now (the one I used when I tried but failed to replicate this condition). If you see it happen again, please let me know.

 

The details you provided in your last report (as well as the screenshot) were very helpful (thanks!). If it happens again please let me know if anything else "unusual" happened during the session in question. For example, if you were disconnected and reconnected in the middle of a tournament, briefly joined a vugraph table before going back and kibitzing the last round, and (especially!) if you were in involved in any kind of substituation, please let me know.

 

Feel free to use e-mail (fred@bridgebase.com) rather than posting to Forums if that makes your life easier.

 

I will arrange to give you some free BB$ for your troubles and for your ongoing help with testing and reporting bugs. What BBO user ID should I use?

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

[uday]

Just a reminder: the latest version of the program now resides on our home page

 

http://www.bridgebase.com

 

 

I believe that MrDodgy was using a slightly older version of the program.

 

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[TylerE]

I was invited to commentate one of the US Junior matches tonight, and had to use my mac. Unfortunaly this seems impossible...got the ungag message, but the option to talk to table wasn't present.

 

EDIT: I actually found a workaround. I went to an open table selected the ->Table button, and then copy/pasted the ->Table and was able to chat. Not ideal, but it did allow me to commentate.

[HeavyDluxe]

Noted an interesting glitch today...

 

- WinXP (SP3) w/ plenty of hardware horsepower

- Firefox 3.0

- Client v18

 

BBOFlash crashes whenever I try to view the profile of someone who has commented to the kibitzers.

 

So, for example:

stokk1 -> Kibitzers: etc etc etc

 

Right-click that person's name, select view profile, and the whole browser session crashes.

 

This does *not* appear to happen in IE (6.0), though I've been able to replicate it in FF on two computers. One other thing, I don't recall this glitch being present when the v17 of the client was posted.

 

Anyway, may just be me... if so, sorry!

[pigpenz]

i didnt read every page of the posts , but in the current version is there a way to create free tournies if you have TD priveleges? couldnt find it if its there.

[fred]

i didnt read every page of the posts , but in the current version is there a way to create free tournies if you have TD priveleges? couldnt find it if its there.

Sorry but we have not done any work yet on TD-related functionality in the Flash client. Most likely this will be one of our highest priorities in the months to come.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

[barmar]

I like to bookmark the login page so I don't have to go through a separate "Click here to play or watch" page, and I've had to update the bookmark every time you announced a new version (and sometimes when you didn't bother to announce it, like last week's v16).  Once you release this for real, are you going to stick with a consistent URL that we can bookmark?

Only if we can figure out how to also guarantee that people will get the latest version when they visit that URL.

 

Our current inability to do this is making our lives harder too.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

How about a URL that simply sends a redirect to whatever the current version is?

 

If not, can you at least display a warning if someone loads an old version? It's annoying having to check www.bridgebase.com periodically to see if the version number has changed.

[fred]

I like to bookmark the login page so I don't have to go through a separate "Click here to play or watch" page, and I've had to update the bookmark every time you announced a new version (and sometimes when you didn't bother to announce it, like last week's v16).  Once you release this for real, are you going to stick with a consistent URL that we can bookmark?

Only if we can figure out how to also guarantee that people will get the latest version when they visit that URL.

 

Our current inability to do this is making our lives harder too.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com

How about a URL that simply sends a redirect to whatever the current version is?

 

If not, can you at least display a warning if someone loads an old version? It's annoying having to check www.bridgebase.com periodically to see if the version number has changed.

Barmar - the number of keystrokes you have used to complain about this is probably less than the number of massively inconvenient 2nd clicks that you will need to launch the Flash client a couple of times a day for an entire year.

 

I said we would do something about this when we can figure out how.

 

This is the last time I will respond to your posts on this subject.

 

Fred Gitelman

Bridge Base Inc.

www.bridgebase.com