Bid These Two Hands

[rogerclee]

[hv=d=s&v=n&n=sak8haqj6dj7cq982&s=st532hk4dq5cakjt3]133|200|Scoring: BAM[/hv]

Bid these two hands in an uncontested auction using whatever system(s) you'd like. Can you reach the top spot?

 

Rotated for jdonn's convenience.

[jdonn]

1♣ 1♥

1♠ 2♦

2♥ 3♣

4♣ 4♠

5♣ P

 

It's easier to read if rotated to make south dealer btw.

[kenrexford]

LOL!!!

 

BAM, right?

 

Opener: 1♣ (obvious)

Responder: 2♣ (Artificial, GF)

Opener: 2♥ (four spades)

Responder: 3♣ (GF, club support)

Opener: 3♥ (no diamond control for 3NT, but a heart card)

Responder: 4♥ (4-2 with solid hearts, at BAM? Hell Yes!)

Opener: Pass (4-2 with solid hearts, at BAM? Hell Yes!)

 

Anyone want a hit?

[CSGibson]

Isn't the top spot on this board 6 clubs and bidding that inhibits a diamond lead? Just curious if anyone has a sequence for that.

[kenrexford]

Isn't the top spot on this board 6 clubs and bidding that inhibits a diamond lead? Just curious if anyone has a sequence for that.

Good point.

 

I'm sitting as Responder and I know that my opponent will bid 4♥ to cash in on the 4-2 fit. But, I need to win the board. So, after the auction leading up to the 4♥ call, I instead leap to 5♦ as Exclusion RKCB?

 

Nope -- that won't work. I have the damned void opposite the worthless holding. Too easy to read.

 

I need partner to show the void. He has not yet denied a diamond control that is shortness. But, he has bid as if he might have 4315. Why not 4306?

 

How do I, as Responder, get partner to play along?

 

Heck! I bid 4♥ and trust him.

 

Opener now thinks:

 

"Interesting... Partner is shooting for the 4-2 heart fit. Maybe 4-3, but he is willing to try 4-2. That suggests primes and a club fit. But, this will be duplicated at the other table. Partner suspects this, but he is willing to shoot this back at me because of the obvious problem. He cannot effectively show a fake void, but I can. What the Heck -- 5♦!"

 

 

 

 

What? Now we are using chore boys?

[han]

Playing 14-16 NT's:

 

1NT-2C

2S-4NT

pass

[Echognome]

Several pairs bid this to 4♥ in SF. Took some wild auctions. A few of the Swedes gave this to me and on their auction (involved shape + asking bids), 4♥ in the known 4-2 actually seemed sensible.

 

My auctions all get to 3/4NT.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

1C (1) - 1H (1)

1S (1) - 2D (2)

3C (3) - 3D (4)

3NT (5)

 

(1) SAYC style

(2) FSF, inv.+

(3) min. values denying 3 hearts, a diamond stopper,

showing 5 clubs

(4) asking for a half stopper

(5) found one, -1

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[cjames]

2♣(11-15 5+♣ may have 4M, yeah I know..)-2♦(relay, not nec GF)

2♠-2NT (relay, now GF)

3♣ (min hand)-3♦ (relay)

3♥(4-2-2-5)-3♠(relay)

3NT (one ace)- then you either pass if you think P has ♦A or you bid 5♣ :blink:

[Guest Jlall]

1♣ 1♥

1♠ 2♦

2♥ 3♣

4♣ 4♠

5♣ P

 

It's easier to read if rotated to make south dealer btw.

Doesn't the 4C bid in your auction suck (partner could def have a diamond stopper still)? I would think that it is a 3D bid, over which partner will bid 3S and then 4C 5C.

[whereagles]

I would definitely end up in 3NT over and over again.

[Apollo81]

1♣ 1♥

1♠ 2♦

2♥ 3♣

4♣ 4♠

5♣ P

 

It's easier to read if rotated to make south dealer btw.

Alternatively,

 

1♣-1♥

1♠-2♦

2♥-3♣

3♦-3♠

4♣-5♣

[P_Marlowe]

1♣ 1♥

1♠ 2♦

2♥ 3♣

4♣ 4♠

5♣ P

 

It's easier to read if rotated to make south dealer btw.

Alternatively,

 

1♣-1♥

1♠-2♦

2♥-3♣

3♦-3♠

4♣-5♣

Can someone explain the 2H response to me?

Did opener already deny 3 hearts?

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[dcvetkov]

1♣ 1♥

1♠ 2♦

2♥ 3♣

4♣ 4♠

5♣ P

 

It's easier to read if rotated to make south dealer btw.

Alternatively,

 

1♣-1♥

1♠-2♦

2♥-3♣

3♦-3♠

4♣-5♣

Yes, this is as good as it can be;)

[pclayton]

Several pairs bid this to 4♥ in SF. Took some wild auctions. A few of the Swedes gave this to me and on their auction (involved shape + asking bids), 4♥ in the known 4-2 actually seemed sensible.

 

My auctions all get to 3/4NT.

Yes I remember this one too.

 

Pretty sure it was in the BAM as well.

[helene_t]

1♣-1♥

1♠-2♦

3♣-3♠

 

Now I would like to interpret 3♠ as choice-of-game so that we continue

4♥-5♣

 

but 3♠ shows a slamish hand with four spades, so we will end up in 4♠. North should probably have bid 5♣ over 3♣.

 

Btw opps may double 2♦ and give us some extra bidding space.

[awm]

Here's Sam and my likely relay auction:

 

1♦(1) - 1♥(2)

1♠(2) - 2♦(3)

2♠(4) - 2NT(3)

3♣(5) - 3♥(6)

3♠(7) - 4♥(8)

 

(1) Could be as short as zero; balanced 11-13 or three suited 11-15

(2) Natural

(3) Game forcing relay

(4) Doubleton ♥ honor; here must be Kx

(5) Exactly 4-2-2-5 shape and 11-13 hcp (this is a balanced hand for us)

(6) Asking ♦ stopper. It may be reasonable to just assume 3NT is unplayable here since many hands where opener has a single diamond stop simply do not produce nine tricks (i.e. xxxx Kx Ax KJxxx) but in any case bidding 3NT with Jx diamonds opposite a doubleton is not reasonable.

(7) No diamond stopper.

(8) It seems like we know the key information. It's BAM, partner has two diamonds with no stop and Kx of hearts opposite our strong holding. 3NT here would imply that we're looking for a half stopper (i.e. if responder had ♦Jxx we could get to 3NT this way) but here this is not the case.

[inquiry]

At BAM, i guess you will want to be in 4♥.

 

1♣ (1.) - 1♥ (1.)

1♠ (2.) - 2♦ (3.)

2♥ (4.) - 3♣ (5.)

3♦ (6.) - 3♥ (7.)

4♣ (8.) - 4♥ (9.)

 

1 - what else?

2 - promises unbalanced 4225, 4135, 4045, 4036, etc. I raise 1♥ to 2♥ with 3♥s

3 - xyz GF

4 - natural, thus has to be Hx of hearts (with three raise earlier)

5 - club support

6 - game before slam, showing some diamond value looking for 3NT

7 - want 3NT only if parnter who is 4-2-1-6 or 4-2-2-5 can bid it.

8 - can't bid 3NT if partner can't and spades at Txxx not rebiddable

9 - like everyone else, 4-2 major fit is great shot at board a match.

[Guest Jlall]

Can someone explain the 2H response to me?

Did opener already deny 3 hearts?

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

It is very common for good players to bid 2H on Hx in this auction. You can easily sort out whether or not you have a 2 or 3 later (since rebidding hearts would show only 3). If you only bid 2H with 3 hearts and only bid 2S with 5 spades then your cheapest 2 bids are the most infrequent and most well defined which is a serious flaw in the system.

[gnasher]

How about:

 

1♣-1♥

1♠-2♦

2♥     (artificial, 4225 without a double diamond stop)

  -3♣

3♥-     (Hx)

  3♠     (suggesting playing spades)

3NT-    (something in diamonds, but not very much)

4♥