Why did I bid like that?

[nielsfoged]

MP. E/None

You are South and holds one of those 6(8) hands above:

(1♣)-1NT(15-18 bal)-(pass)-pass; (2♣)-DBL!

 

Which hand are you must likely to hold?

 

Would you dare to DBL if no specific agreement had been made with your regular partner?

 

/Niels

[helene_t]

Something like a 4423 with a double club guard. A 4432 or a 4423 with a single club guard should probably have doubled in the first place.

 

I don't think I should make this call without discussion.

[Apollo81]

If this is a takeout double, why didn't we double 1♣?

[TimG]

If this is a takeout double, why didn't we double 1♣?

Because we counted our points and had a club stopper.

[Free]

If this is a takeout double, why didn't we double 1♣?

Because we counted our points and had a club stopper.

LOL

[ArtK78]

Penalty double absent a specific agreement to the contrary. I would have one of the first two hands listed in the poll.

[Gerben42]

I'm looking behind door number 2. PENALTY! I would have passed #1 or bid 3♣ if that's natural and strong.

[P_Marlowe]

If this is a takeout double, why didn't we double 1♣?

Because we counted our points and had a club stopper.

... and happen to hold a bal. shape.

 

Making discovering 44 / 53 fits in a mayor easier.

 

I am not sure, if the quoted comment was intended

as a joke, but there are hands, which make a 1NT

overcall and a re suitable for a delayed t/o.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[TimG]

If this is a takeout double, why didn't we double 1♣?

Because we counted our points and had a club stopper.

... and happen to hold a bal. shape.

 

Making discovering 44 / 53 fits in a mayor easier.

Easier than after a double?

 

Won't advancer sometimes have a four-card major without enough strength to act over a NT overcall, thus missing a 4-4 fit that would have been found after a double?

[Finch]

I've discussed this auction.

 

We play

 

1x 1NT P P

2x dbl

 

as penalties against a minor, and take-out against a major

 

as already mentioned, if I had a take-out double of 1C I would have doubled last round.

[jdonn]

If this is a takeout double, why didn't we double 1♣?

Because we counted our points and had a club stopper.

This logic makes no sense to me. You are allowed to make a takeout double first on such a hand if appropriate. If it's not then you don't have the second double. So I think clear penalty.

[P_Marlowe]

If this is a takeout double, why didn't we double 1♣?

Because we counted our points and had a club stopper.

... and happen to hold a bal. shape.

 

Making discovering 44 / 53 fits in a mayor easier.

Easier than after a double?

 

Won't advancer sometimes have a four-card major without enough strength to act over a NT overcall, thus missing a 4-4 fit that would have been found after a double?

This can of course happen as well.

 

You will need to weight what descirbes your hand better,

a t/o, promising an opening hand with shortage in their

suit or 1NT, promising 15/16-17/18HCP, a stopper and

a bal. hand.

You will have also to weight, if you choose the t/o which

is less risky than a 1 NT overcall, but usually the continuations

are less well defined compare to the continuations after

a 1NT overcall.

A 1 NT overcall will also have a certain preemptive effect.

 

Take your pick.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[kenrexford]

I don't get this.

 

You are allowed to open 1NT with 4-4 or 4-3 in the majors if you are balanced. Sometimes, this means that you do not find a 4-4 major fit. However, that is usually not as costly as having a one-of-a-minor...1NT have a range of 11-17.

 

Why, then, is it OK, and even preferable, for a double to replace a 1NT overcall when you clearly have a 1NT overcall strength, leaving partner thinking that you have 11-17 if you are balanced?

 

From my experience, opting 1NT when the legitimate options are 1NT or double works beter in the long run. Just my opinion.

[gnasher]

We play

 

1x 1NT P P

2x dbl

 

as penalties against a minor, and take-out against a major

 

as already mentioned, if I had a take-out double of 1C I would have doubled last round.

But if they opened 1H and you had a takeout double of that, you'd overcall 1NT?

[jdeegan]

:) Hand three for me. My bidding gets wild when I have 14 cards.