you got preempted. how now?

[matmat]

hmmm...

 

I know how some of you like when stunts like this get pulled =)

 

this hand is actually the one held by partner of the one in this post:

http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=25124

[mikeh]

hmmm...

 

I know how some of you like when stunts like this get pulled =)

 

this hand is actually the one held by partner of the one in this post:

http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=25124

yes, that was always a possibility, and I think someone suggested it earlier in the thread.

 

So I defended and the contract was cold. Too bad. It won't be the worst result I've ever had.

 

Anyone who doubles as responder knows that this, or other, disasters lurk. The fact that, on this one iteration, disaster occurs is perhaps interesting but not persuasive. Do a simulation, with constraints that we are all reasonably happy with, and run 1000 hands, and if doubling is a net loser.. that's persuasive.

[rogerclee]

So I defended and the contract was cold. Too bad. It won't be the worst result I've ever had.

I passed. +500 for a top :).

 

Double-dummy, it could've gone for only 300, but it was always going down.

[mikeh]

So I defended and the contract was cold. Too bad. It won't be the worst result I've ever had.

I passed. +500 for a top :).

 

Double-dummy, it could've gone for only 300, but it was always going down.

even better :)

[ArtK78]

Kxx

AK

AKQxx

JTx

 

I don't think this is too far-fetched.  If the opponents diamonds are 3-0 or their spades are 4-1, 4♥ is cold. 

Ummmmm... not too far-fetched?

 

They are white v white. RHO overcalled on at most a J high suit and LHO raised to game on at most xxx? And this is not too far-fetched? You play in a different environment than I do if your opps routinely bid like this.

 

And, btw, why did partner open 1♦ with a 3=2=5=3 20 count? My partners tend to open 2N with that hand :)

 

I accept that you would have cobbled together your example hand in a hurry, as I usually do in this forum, but if this is that hand we have to worry about when we double 2♥, I'm not going to lose much sleep over it.

So take away the ♣J - make the clubs T9x instead of JTx. At least that makes the bidding by opener perfectly normal. Not that he isn't allowed to open the first hand 1♦.

 

In any event, I don't worry about the reasons for my opponents' bidding. I only worry about my bidding.

 

The other day, I was declaring a 3NT contract after my LHO overcalled 1♠. I held AKJx of spades. A low spade was led, and partner had the Txx of spades. I wanted to be in dummy, so I played the 10. RHO played the Q!. Not only that, LHO's only honor card turned out to be the ♣A and the ♦K. Apparently, that, along with a 9 high five card suit, is good enough for an overcall.

 

So I don't try to come up with explanations for my opponents' bidding if I don't have to. Suffice it to say that on the hand that I gave as an example, they will have reached a cold or near-cold 4♥ contract on a 9-card fit missing the AKQ and 10 of hearts. You may beat 4♥ on a ruff, but you are not getting rich on that result.

 

Speaking of bidding bad suits, there is a thread in the General Forum in which posters are being asked what to open holding 6 small hearts and AKTxxx of diamonds. So far, I am one of the very few votes in favor of opening 1♦. So perhaps the preemptor here holds 6 hearts to the J and 6 clubs to the AK.

[jdonn]

So I defended and the contract was cold. Too bad. It won't be the worst result I've ever had.

I passed. +500 for a top :).

 

Double-dummy, it could've gone for only 300, but it was always going down.

even better :)

Hey I'm happy too, I'll consider taking the winning action in one thread out of two a victory any day!

 

Well I still think I'm reaching 5♦ though :)