Bid now, later, or never

[655321]

After the hesitation over a weak NT, I can't see that any committee would let you have your 2♠ bid.

 

You partner's bidding was consistent (yes, I realize it was not deliberate) with the Weasel Defense to 1NT. (Double = 15+, Slow pass = 13-14, Question = 10-12) and if I was on a committe that heard your appeal, I would keep the deposit.

[Apollo81]

First of all, if it was a weak NT, you should have mentioned that in your OP.

 

Second, whether or not you should bid 2♠ over 2♣ is completely irrelevant. You have an obvious 2♠ call on the third round after 2♦pp which is presumably what was going to happen, and partner has an obvious raise to game.

[jdonn]

Second, whether or not you should bid 2♠ over 2♣ is completely irrelevant. You have an obvious 2♠ call on the third round after 2♦pp which is presumably what was going to happen, and partner has an obvious raise to game.

That may well be true, I'm not really disputing it, but I don't think you can call either of those totally obvious when it's an auction that probably none of us have ever had before.

 

Anyway the director's ruling was normal.

[P_Marlowe]

For completeness, 1NT was weak NT (I thought I specified that before but I see I forgot - sorry), responder held 4 hearts, a singleton spade, I think 6 diamonds to the QJ or something, and a scattered 8 count. I have no idea what he was planning to do. Maybe in their methods, 2♣ followed by 3♦ is a weak sign-off?

Fair enough, but would this mean, that a hand which bids 2C does

not need to hold a 4 card mayor?

And if this could be the case, I would expect an alert.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[nige1]

1st seat, nobody vul, matchpoints, you hold:

 

♠A98632 ♥KT74 ♦72 ♣9

 

Your options are:

 

Pass

1♠ = 5+, 11-17

2♦ = Weak with 6+ in a Major

2♥ = weak with 5+5+ in ♥ and another suit (pretty strict about 5+5+)

 

Your bidding style is fairly normal pre-empts, weak 2s and openings.

 

What's your call?

 

 

[Part 2]

If you pass, the auction goes:

 

Pass - 1NT - Pass - 2♣

 

Do you bid now?

As opener, IMO

2♦ = 10, _P=7, 1♠ = 6.

 

After _P - 1N - _P - 2♣, IMO

2♠ = 10, _P = 6.

[rbforster]

I was going to vote for pass (not right for preempting), and then pass again since the opponents might be headed towards playing in my majors. I was going to add that if a likely 2♦ response by NT opener to Stayman gets passed back to me I'd be balancing 2♠.

 

Anyway, we ended up bidding to 4♠ and opps to 5♦ being doubled off 1. The director adjusted to 2♦ making +2 for an absolute top for the opps.

I think if you give this auction to a bunch of people

 

P-(1NT)-P-(2♣)

P-(2♦)-P-(P)

?

 

you'd get a large number of people bidding 2♠. In light of that, I'm not sure that if the director thinks he can enforce a 2nd pass on you whether he can really have the other side play in 2♦. Surely you can balance with a decent 6-4 shape after passing twice?

[jdonn]

I think if you give this auction to a bunch of people

 

P-(1NT)-P-(2♣)

P-(2♦)-P-(P)

?

 

you'd get a large number of people bidding 2♠.

That's not the guideline the director is supposed to follow...

[Raivis]

1) 1♠

2) 2♥

 

1) Normal distributional open for me. Not use multi (2 suit hand).

2) Im play DONT style and show both majors is good practice. Litlle worried about 2♣ (may be too have one major).