CSGibson Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sjtha543daj2cq632]133|100|P-(p)-1♥-(4♠),?[/hv] Scoring is imps. You decided to be disciplined for a hand and pass this initially, and now you've been preempted like you deserve. What now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 I double. We have, likely, between 9 and 12 tricks in hearts and no way to explore and I expect them to go set if partner has a decent hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Double. Partner's 3rd seat 1♥ opening can be highly variable, and your hand is very defensive despite the 4 hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 5♥. This is IMPs. Doubling could easily lead to a double doubled game swing. I would be more comforable if I knew my partner's opening bid style in 3rd seat. In any event, doubling does not guarantee a plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted April 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 5♥. This is IMPs. Doubling could easily lead to a double doubled game swing. I would be more comforable if I knew my partner's opening bid style in 3rd seat. In any event, doubling does not guarantee a plus. Partner is an aggressive 3rd seat opener, but less so at these colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Classic double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 x wtp? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Double WTP. Way too balanced to be bidding at the 5 level.I agree that making the ridiculous pass as dealer deserves this problem. As it happens, though, you might not be any better off after the disciplined 1♣ opening: 1♣ - pass - 1♥ - 4♠pass - pass - double - pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted April 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 x wtp? :) The problem is illustrated by looking at all 4 hands. [hv=d=s&v=n&n=skhkt9862dq973caj&w=s87hqj7dk864ct985&e=saq965432hdt5ck74&s=sjtha543daj2cq632]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] 4 spades happens to make. Looking just at the N-S hands, I would want to be in a vulnerable 5 heart game, even if it is off 2 on the actual layout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 5H because we dont open too light in 3rd, seat otherwise X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 x wtp? :) The problem is illustrated by looking at all 4 hands. [hv=d=s&v=n&n=skhkt9862dq973caj&w=s87hqj7dk864ct985&e=saq965432hdt5ck74&s=sjtha543daj2cq632]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] 4 spades happens to make. Looking just at the N-S hands, I would want to be in a vulnerable 5 heart game, even if it is off 2 on the actual layout. 1) if we open 12 hcp we open south hand ..if not then 2) x of 4s is not 100% penalty......north needs to decide..defense or offense....3) with 6-4 hand i lean towards not defending but.......not easy4) yes sometimes they make 15 hcp games when we have 25 hcp opps.....5) If only this was the worst disaster hand I ever have...:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Classic double. Really. I would prefer fewer hearts. I bid 5♥ I am not doubling with undisclosed four-card trump support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 X, wtp? I am bal. I have defensive. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Classic double. Really. I would prefer fewer hearts. I bid 5♥ I am not doubling with undisclosed four-card trump support. what he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Would have doubled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 5♥ wtp? It may be down but we can't not show our support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 What's disciplined about passing this in first seat "for a hand"? If you generally open these hands then passing is undisciplined. Now this is an extremely uncomfortable position given what my partner opens on in third seat. I can't afford to pass, double with 4-card support is terrible and 5H could easily be very expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Would have doubled Would have opened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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