Fluffy Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 ♠10♥A3♦AKQ632♣K763 South dealer all vul S - N1♦-1♠?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 2♣ seems clear to me. I would not actually be surprised if 1NT was the winning action, which I might do if you made the hand worse (but kept ♦AKQxxx). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 1NT? That's quite the imagination.... but 2♣ it is, wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 2C Seems clear. Is the field really bidding 1NT? If so, I reckon I have the odds with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Is the field really bidding 1NT? I would not expect any field to look at 6-4 and think "hmm, 1NT." That said, this hand is way too good to bid 1NT anyway, even if you were that sick (I am not). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 2C. 1N? Wow, what are they teaching kids these days? B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 2♣. If I were using an unbalanced diamond opening, where a 1♦ opening promised a stiff, and a 1NT rebid showed that the stiff was in Responder's major, I'd rebid 2♣. Rebidding 1NT?!? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 2♣. I guess the reason this is here is pard passed 2♣ and 3NT would have made vs a 3♦ rebid :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 rebidding 2♣ is only a slight problem is we open 1♦ on 4♦5♣ hands thus making partner more likely to pass. but I'd bid 2♣ even so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 This is a clear 2♣ rebid. Nothing else make sense to me. 1NT is ridiculous, and we're not strong enoug for 3♣ or 3♦. Strongly prefer 2♣ showing 9+ cards in two suits over 2♦ showing 6+ cards (maybe even only 5+) in one suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 2 ♣ In SEF this has 18 points, so it is the upper limit of a 2 Club bid. The nice points (no unprotected Quacks) makes it better, the stiff in pds hand weaker.So I have sympathy for 3 CLub as a second choice to the normal 2 Club bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 2C Bidding is not a perfect science and not every making game is biddable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Bidding is not a perfect science and not every making game is biddable. Indeed. A lot of people seem to forget that. Sometimes you have to play the odds instead of trying for impossible perfection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 2NT forcing wtp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 and we're not strong enoug for 3♣ or 3♦. I think we are fairly strong enough for a 3♦ rebid :P. Anyway, everyone agreed on first decision. Now the auction goes on. 1♦-1♠2♣-3♦3♥-3♠?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 If partner held some kind of supporting heart cards, it would be imperative for him to bid 3N instead of 3S. 3S must be a suggested strain, then, as he didn't bid 4D.Maybe he has something like: KQJxxx, xxx, Jxx, A I am going to bid 4S, allowing the option of playing there or in 5D. With only Ax, in hearts, 3N surely cannot be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I think partner is cue-bidding his cheapest ace and claiming no clear heart stop with 3♠. I'm bidding key card, whatever that is in your methods, and, if we have all the key cards, asking partner to bid 7 with 3rd round control of clubs. If partner has one key card, I'm stopping at 5♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I bid 4♦ over 3♠, forcing (3♥ was game forcing to me). I'm very suit oriented, so if we are supposed to be in 3NT opposite a stiff spade and only the ace in hearts I'm not sure why partner didn't bid it. But I don't want to rush to keycard since there might be a problem in clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I bid 4♦ over 3♠, forcing (3♥ was game forcing to me). I'm very suit oriented, so if we are supposed to be in 3NT opposite a stiff spade and only the ace in hearts I'm not sure why partner didn't bid it. But I don't want to rush to keycard since there might be a problem in clubs.JDonn, But to go back to the earlier bidding, partner only bid 3 diamonds, which I take as invitational only in this sequence - surely 3H now is forcing, but only to 3N and NOT to 5D, don't you think? I'm not certain partner would be clear that 4D is meant as forcing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I think partner is cue-bidding his cheapest ace and claiming no clear heart stop with 3♠. I'm bidding key card, whatever that is in your methods, and, if we have all the key cards, asking partner to bid 7 with 3rd round control of clubs. If partner has one key card, I'm stopping at 5♦.Again, the earlier bidding is essential - was 3D forcing or non-forcing? If non-forcing, how can 3S bid a slam try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 3NT. 3NT????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I bid 4♦ over 3♠, forcing (3♥ was game forcing to me). I'm very suit oriented, so if we are supposed to be in 3NT opposite a stiff spade and only the ace in hearts I'm not sure why partner didn't bid it. But I don't want to rush to keycard since there might be a problem in clubs.JDonn, But to go back to the earlier bidding, partner only bid 3 diamonds, which I take as invitational only in this sequence - surely 3H now is forcing, but only to 3N and NOT to 5D, don't you think? No, not my partners. One of the things I like to establish with partners is that we can not stop in 4 of a minor on a game forcing auction UNLESS there was any interference at any point in the auction. I find this rule is both easy and works well, say for a hand like this where we could have slam but there is nothing good to bid. 5♦ is possible but doesn't show our strength well. I don't understand why it would be taken as non-forcing. I always considered it a standard rule that if responder makes an invitational bid and opener bids over it, the invitation has been accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 For most people I dont think 4♦ would be forcing in this auction. I would bid 4♥ and am happy whether it is a cue or we're playing it as RKC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 not sure what's going on, but I won't stop before 6♦. Let's just make it simple and trot up ol'black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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