ArtK78 Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Playing in an ACBL IMP pairs game on BBO, you pick up: [hv=d=n&v=e&s=sjhq8xxxdqj8xctxx]133|100|Scoring: XIMPP - (P) - 2♥* - (x)P - 3NT - All Pass[/hv] * Not everyone's cup of tea, but in IMP pairs, especially at favorable vul, you have to push your opponents around when you can. So, you are on lead. What is your choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Low Diamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 low diamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 High diamond, the 8 making the difference to me. 2♥ is crazy. I would have bid it myself. Best Regards Ole Berg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Why do we need the bidding lesson? A simple "if you don't like it too bad for you" would suffice. I'll go queen of diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Spade Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Why do we need the bidding lesson? A simple "if you don't like it too bad for you" would suffice. I'll go queen of diamonds. IMO, using the phrase that you suggest is in bad taste. I expressed my opinion of IMP pair tactics. You are free to agree or disagree as you wish, but at least don't be disagreeable about it. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 True, it's more polite to say in different words "If you don't like it you are wrong since it's right for this reason." Nothing is in better taste than unsolicited lessons. How much do we owe you B) Ken I would never lead it, but I have this gut feeling the spade jack is going to be the winning lead this time. So I'm very bitter you chose it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Small diamond. I can see the advantages of leading the queen, but I'd be worried that partner may do the wrong thing by misreading my holding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Always a diamond here for me - my regular partner would kill me if I lead something else. I'd go for the queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 It is funny that almost everyone agrees that the right lead is a diamond, whether high or low. Ken leads the ♠J, and Josh says that he won't do it, but strongly suspects that it is the winning lead on this hand. And so it is: [hv=d=n&v=e&n=sakq9xhtxdxxcjxxx&w=s8xxxhaj9datxcaqx&e=stxxhkxxdk9xxckxx&s=sjhq8xxxdqj8xctxx]399|300|Scoring: XIMP[/hv] A spade lead produces 5 immediate tricks, while a club or heart lead gives declarer a slow, lingering death. I led a low diamond. I have to admit that I would have opened either 1♠ or 2♠ on my partner's hand, but there are plenty of players who would pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 If I had passed as dealer then I would bid 2♠ after 2♥ X. I refuse to let the suit go unbid altogether if I can help it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Always a diamond here for me - my regular partner would kill me if I lead something else. I'd go for the queen. Wow, and you are still alive! You and your partner must be very well in tune, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Brilliance is often rewarded. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Brilliance is often rewarded. :) Well non brilliance here I passed in third seat........and bidding went against two wc or super exp. p=p=p=1nt2s=3nt=pppp 1) I was shocked pard did not open one spade, Justin just talked about this hand type last week.2) But he found the K of s lead somehow :P I was squeezed on spades and clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 An odd hand. I certainly would have bid S at some stage. On the given auction I would definitely lead a D, though as Josh I suspected that S was the winning lead. And finally I think the 2H opening sucks regardless of any form of scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Always a diamond here for me - my regular partner would kill me if I lead something else. I'd go for the queen. Wow, and you are still alive! You and your partner must be very well in tune, then. Sure. My partner would never hold that north hand on this auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 It is funny that almost everyone agrees that the right lead is a diamond, whether high or low. Ken leads the ♠J, and Josh says that he won't do it, but strongly suspects that it is the winning lead on this hand. And so it is: [hv=d=n&v=e&n=sakq9xhtxdxxcjxxx&w=s8xxxhaj9datxcaqx&e=stxxhkxxdk9xxckxx&s=sjhq8xxxdqj8xctxx]399|300|Scoring: XIMP[/hv] A spade lead produces 5 immediate tricks, while a club or heart lead gives declarer a slow, lingering death. I led a low diamond. I have to admit that I would have opened either 1♠ or 2♠ on my partner's hand, but there are plenty of players who would pass. Call the director! Someone has removed, not only partners spade-cards from his bidding -box, but all his double-cards as well. Best Regards Ole Berg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Someone has removed, not only partners spade-cards from his bidding -box, but all his double-cards as well.What lead would DBL of 3NT asks? For me it would say I have Hx in Hearts and asks for a small H lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 There's also the minor point that LHO doesn't have a double of 2H, and RHO doesn't have a 3NT bid. Or was the double alerted as penalties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 There's also the minor point that LHO doesn't have a double of 2H, and RHO doesn't have a 3NT bid. Or was the double alerted as penalties? The opponents are allowed to do as they please. In this case, it pleased LHO to double 2♥ and it pleased RHO to bid 3NT. They were especially pleased to make it on my low diamond lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 There's also the minor point that LHO doesn't have a double of 2H, and RHO doesn't have a 3NT bid. Or was the double alerted as penalties? The opponents are allowed to do as they please. In this case, it pleased LHO to double 2♥ and it pleased RHO to bid 3NT. They were especially pleased to make it on my low diamond lead. Oh yes, the opponents aren't forced to bid sensibly. But taking the long view, if they really don't know what they are doing (which this hand doesn't prove, of course, they may just be playing different methods) then you remember that you will win anyway in the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 There's also the minor point that LHO doesn't have a double of 2H, and RHO doesn't have a 3NT bid. Or was the double alerted as penalties? I like to play that lebensohl after a weak two bid is doubled only includes weak hands (none of my partners agree of course), because there are a number of hands where I like to double and pass if partner bids 2NT, this west hand being one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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