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Isn't the second hand too good for 1 then 4? 3 aces one time pard?

 

For Art: As for the method he plays that doesn't let him bid 1 then 4 on this auction unless he has four spades, I'm sure he makes use of this nifty "4th suit forcing" convention to get around the dilemma of what to do when he doesn't have spades.

Seems like a waste of a sequence.

 

If you have spades, you can bid them.

 

The distinction between 4 directly, 1 then 4 and 1 then 4th suit forcing then 4 should be based on the playing strength of responder's hand, not whether there is a fit for responder's second suit.

 

By the way, the sarcasm was not lost on me. ;)

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