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GAME!!!!

 

This one is not close. You were only forced to 2 so partner showed something extra, be it shape or strength. And you have four spades and a singleton. And you are vul at imps! Sorry I'm having a hernia over here :P

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This might depend on your overcall style and other agreements.

 

In my partnership we have the agreement that 3 is purely competitive. That is a hand that does not want to bid game opposite an invite but is willing to compete to 3 - 3 might even be going off - hopefully not too much if unfavourable.

 

Having said that there is no guarantee that the opponents have a heart fit so it doesn't seem likely that partner is bidding 3 with xxx or similar unless she has some pretty good cards.

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Prefer 2N or 3C the round before so partner has some idea of what i have. Anyways, I shoot it out even though partner is not inviting us to bid.

What is 2NT the round before compared with a cue-raise - just 4 trumps versus 3 trumps or some other distinction for you?

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Pass for me not close. Partner would have bid 4S with anything that breathe. With 3H he know we have a stiff or a doubleton. If he got 2H our stiff is worth only 1 trick.

AKxxxx xxx, Kx,Qx is an easy 4S bid.

AQxxxx xxx Kx Kx is a 4S bid.

 

IMO The problematic hands are

 

AQxxxx xxx x Qxx

AQxxxx xxx x Kxx

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GAME!!!!

 

This one is not close. You were only forced to 2 so partner showed something extra, be it shape or strength. And you have four spades and a singleton. And you are vul at imps! Sorry I'm having a hernia over here :blink:

Everything he said.

I bid game and expect it to be making 11 more often than 9. Partner is marked with heart length, how can that be a bad thing?

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Pass for me not close. Partner would have bid 4S with anything that breathe. With 3H he know we have a stiff or a doubleton. If he got 2H our stiff is worth only 1 trick.

So LHO has 8 hearts?

 

Taking out the initial passes, it looks like....

 

1 1 1NT 2

3 3 -P-

 

That doesn't sound like an auction where the opponents have much of a heart fit, not unless 1NT shows something different than what I'm used to.

 

I think it's crazy to play 1-2-3 stop here. If I had a hand like....

 

AQxxxx xxx x Qxx

 

I wouldn't bid 3, for fear that I'd push them into a making 4. Maybe your limit raises with a passed hand are better than mine, but, say...

 

AQxxxx xxx Kx Kx

 

That's just a 3 bid for me, given the 1NT on my left which greatly devalues the hand.

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Surely 3 is only competitive here.

But I've got a 4th trump, a useful singleton, an ace and a possible source of tricks (if needed). How can I not raise to game - I seem to remotely remember something about bonuses for bidding and making games. Red at IMPs those convert to 10 IMPs.

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-800. I won't post partner's hand here. Just wanted to see my part of the deal.

Aw boooo, we don't know who he is! Spill it!

It seems the hand was played on BBO, and:

 

1) Partner did not have a 3 bid, and

2) Playing misere, partner still had to win 7 of his original 9 tricks.

 

So, bidding 4 still seems good to me. :)

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