kfay Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 How do you go about bidding this hand if 3♦ here (edited) actually shows diamonds? [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sak10xhaqdxcaxxxxx]133|100|Scoring: MP1♣-1♠[/hv] 1♣ here shows 15+ HCP and 1♠ is natural and GF (9+) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Can't I start some super deluxo Precision asking bids here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 To support spades I have to jump all the way to 3D? Grrrreat. Can't really answer the question without knowing what all these other bids mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted April 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 No I mean that 3♦ shows real diamonds. Like a solid 6-bagger or something like that. Everything at this point is basically natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 No I mean that 3♦ shows real diamonds. Like a solid 6-bagger or something like that. Everything at this point is basically natural. If you play natural, then the next call is 2♠, which sets spades as trump and starts a cue bid sequence. Cue bids are whatever you agree as cue bids, but if you're playing 70s style Precision then you're going to go cheapest ace.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted April 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Well the point of this post, I guess, is asking how other people might bid this if they had any sensible gadgets (read: non-relay). Do most people play 3♦ as showing real diamonds, or would you play this as a splinter? etc. Maybe I've got this all wrong and I should just be trying to find out what partner has on this one. That's probably true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjames Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 CAB wtp? :P Without that option I would bid 2♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I'm not that familar with natural style Precision, but what about rebidding 2♣? Obviously you want to play in spades, but this should improve partner's evaluation of his high cards and leaves plenty of room for both players to show their distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irdoz Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 The only precision version I've played was based on Rigal's book precision in the 90s. The methods he recommended after 1c-1M positive were :- 4M = min balanced no slam interest3M = balanced slam try with good trump supportDouble jump shift = min splinter2M = trump ask after which the asker could show a max with splinter Alternatively as an option instead of double jump shift as splinter he suggested you could use3M as 19+ with 4 trumps and a splinter/void3M+1 as min with undisclosed splinterhigher than 3M+1 as min with void Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 2♠ shows fit right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 2♠. Either natural with normal followups, or natural setting trumps and asking about the spade suit (012123 style). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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