mikeh Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=sq1032hj1098d62c1092]133|100|Scoring: IMP[P] P 1♥ P1♠ P [P] x2♠ P [P] x[P] ? LHO is agressive, neither team has been doing well. Partner is a WC expert[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Pass. Seems like we got 2 tricks on defense and 0 on offense :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Pass. Weird auction, but I doubt pard is broke in spades. Maybe a monster 22(45)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 uhh 3♣? Partner's first pass suggests extreme spade shortness, he obv has a big hand so thats the only reason I can think of that he wouldnt double on round 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I think partner has a penalty double of 1♥. So 3♥ is tempting. Maybe 1♥ was a psych? A bit of table feel might help, but I'll go with my gut and bid 3♥. At least if it's wrong, it's going to be horribly wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Pass. Weird auction, but I doubt pard is broke in spades. Maybe a monster 22(45)? Strange, I am sure partner has to be short in spades, maybe even void. How could a monster 22(45) not have an overcall, 1NT bid, or double the first time? I put him on a strong 1444 or 0(544), so I bid 3♥. I think pass is absolute suicide since rho is probably void in hearts unless the opening bid was a psych. Partner's heart strength is a defensive mirage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Bar psyches, I'd place pard with something like this... xxxxxAKQxAQJx Unless, of course, you'd overcall 1NT on it. (I would.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I think partner has 1633, I bid 3 hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I think partner has 1633, I bid 3 hearts. wouldn't he bid 2♥ on that hand? let's just pass for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I think partner has 1633, I bid 3 hearts. wouldn't he bid 2♥ on that hand? I am not a fan of multi vs multi, this version you suggest of psycke vs psycke doesn't look much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Pass. Weird auction, but I doubt pard is broke in spades. Maybe a monster 22(45)? Strange, I am sure partner has to be short in spades, maybe even void. How could a monster 22(45) not have an overcall, 1NT bid, or double the first time? I put him on a strong 1444 or 0(544), so I bid 3♥. I think pass is absolute suicide since rho is probably void in hearts unless the opening bid was a psych. Partner's heart strength is a defensive mirage. Thought pard doubled 1♥. Never mind. 1♥ sure smells fishy. 3♣ or even 3♥ if I know LHO is a joker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I'd also bid 3H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 I think partner has 1633, I bid 3 hearts. wouldn't he bid 2♥ on that hand? let's just pass for now. yes, he would.. at least, this partner would. You can forget all constructions with 6+ hearts in partner's hand :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Disagree with those who think partner has shown a trap pass. Could pard bid this way with xx Qx AKxx AJxxx? How about x Axx AKxx Kxxxx? It seems unlikely partner would keep doubling if he had hearts unless he was 15(43) with a very good hand. Anyways, if you bid 3H and you're wrong you're completely screwed so I'd just bid 3C for survival purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Disagree with those who think partner has shown a trap pass. Could pard bid this way with xx Qx AKxx AJxxx? How about x Axx AKxx Kxxxx? It seems unlikely partner would keep doubling if he had hearts unless he was 15(43) with a very good hand. Anyways, if you bid 3H and you're wrong you're completely screwed so I'd just bid 3C for survival purposes.would you ever consider 2N instead of the second double with your example hands? Or would you need equal minors to do that? Or are you looking for a penalty enough times to double again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Disagree with those who think partner has shown a trap pass. Could pard bid this way with xx Qx AKxx AJxxx? How about x Axx AKxx Kxxxx? It seems unlikely partner would keep doubling if he had hearts unless he was 15(43) with a very good hand. Anyways, if you bid 3H and you're wrong you're completely screwed so I'd just bid 3C for survival purposes.would you ever consider 2N instead of the second double with your example hands? Or would you need equal minors to do that? Or are you looking for a penalty enough times to double again? Yes I thought of that, I would be hoping partner would pass the X but maybe 2N=minors X=3 suited with hearts? I don't know... I would be very scared to bid 3H though lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Jlall's very convincing.But I wonder if partner might have a strong 1444 and 3H is still our best spot. Part of this is style - does partner think it's right to overcall 1NT on a hand like that? I can't face defending 2Sx, partner must have at most a singleton. No-one has suggested 2NT yet. If partner thinks it's natural, that's not a disaster. If partner thinks it's scrambling, showing doubt about where to play, then that's not a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 No-one has suggested 2NT yet. If partner thinks it's natural, that's not a disaster. If partner thinks it's scrambling, showing doubt about where to play, then that's not a disaster. I considered it but given that I already believe partner has hearts I don't see how it can help, since it will get us to hearts only if partner bids 3♦, otherwise we miss them (say he is 1444). Anything is still better than pass. Partner does not have two spades unless the opponents are really being weird since their normal minimum lengths are 3 and 5 for their actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Put me down for 3♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I gave this to my other half whose first comment was 'delightful' He eventually bid 3H, although I half-convinced him that 2NT might be better - 2NT (scramble) works opposite 1345 and 1453 but loses opposite 1444. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I think partner has a penalty double of 1♥. So 3♥ is tempting. Maybe 1♥ was a psych? A bit of table feel might help, but I'll go with my gut and bid 3♥. At least if it's wrong, it's going to be horribly wrong! Agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I gave this to my other half whose first comment was 'delightful' He eventually bid 3H, although I half-convinced him that 2NT might be better - 2NT (scramble) works opposite 1345 and 1453 but loses opposite 1444. I really hope partner would bid 2NT the second time with 1345. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I gave this to my other half whose first comment was 'delightful' He eventually bid 3H, although I half-convinced him that 2NT might be better - 2NT (scramble) works opposite 1345 and 1453 but loses opposite 1444. It doesn't "work" opposite 1453, it breaks even. Meanwhile how about 1534... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Maybe I've been persuaded back into 3H. But I'm still not convinced partner would bid 2NT with a 1345. Actually I'm not sure I can construct a 1345 that passes over 1H but is still prepared to double 2S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Jack of Hearts,thought this was a lead problem :) 3clubs second choice, ugly .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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